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By Thomas Klikauer, published 21/9/2018It did not come from Russia but from within; Germany's radical-right used fake news.
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Posted by diver dan, Friday, 21 September 2018 8:36:09 AM
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"Right wing radicals". I wasn't aware that there were any; the Left runs everything these days. It certainly wasn't the Right that wrecked German society with mass immigration of illegals. Germans need to wake up and forget that they were Nazis 80 years ago. Drop the 'shame' before they sink under Islam, the only supposed religion the source of their shame, Adolf Hitler, had any time for. It is ridiculous that these new 'non-Nazi' Germans are still filling their country up with Islamists.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 21 September 2018 9:12:47 AM
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don't really know much about Germany but certainly here the hopelessly flawed and dishonest lefty abc funded by tax payer could not be any worse than other fake news outlets. They are men hating, family hating, feminist marxist loving bunch who ignore facts that don't suite their sick little UN agendas. They are enemies of our nation.
Posted by runner, Friday, 21 September 2018 9:59:37 AM
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People with ultra extreme views are no strangers to fake news! It's their invention and will say do or promise anything for a preferred outcome, including lying through their back teeth and repeating the same monstrous lie some many times, till some folk begin to believe their own propaganda!
The only way to counter or offset this crap is with the deployment of space-age lie detectors in inner-city newsrooms and regional news desks. And indeed where ever public news is collected collated and redistributed. People, media moguls/barons, who lie for a political/financial outcome as indicated here? Need to be not only named but filmed as they spread their pernicious propaganda. Folk who are brainwashed by this or that cult and their persuasive propaganda will stick to their inculcated if entirely false belief system with a rare passion and intractable resolve. And just like climate denialists and flat-earthers, able to explain away even their own eyewitnessed evidence. Richard Brampton offered a highly placed, Flat Earth Society, a ride in his low orbit spacecraft. When they landed. Sir Richard asked, what did you think of that? To which the brainwashed flat earther replied, and here I paraphrase, the special effects were very nearly believable as were the 3D graphics. And underlines the point that nothing short of being able to stick one's fingers in the wounds will convince the professional sceptics they are wrong. We could offer them that outcome with the widespread rollout of deployed space age lie detectors, almost as if they were mandated by law, smoke detectors. The best place to start would be our parliaments and for the obvious reason, that's where they are most needed! The trust, the lest. The betrayal of trust, the most public and glaring! People holding high public office need to be held to account. With every false fact they utter and repeat, they avoid that accountability as has the Catholic church from 1622? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Friday, 21 September 2018 10:14:28 AM
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Isn't it past high time that Leftism is classified mental illness ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 21 September 2018 10:51:32 AM
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I don't know about that, Individual. For all I know, you and I might be the only two sane ones posting here?
And I'm not too sure about you. Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:21:59 AM
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Plenty of fake news emanating from the right, none more glaring than there's nothing cheaper than coal
Yes, sure we have lots of it, lithium, rare metals and thorium. Which we have used as an indicator mineral when searching for the latter two. Then found when we were extracting things like ilmenite from mineral sands the thorium became a nuisance that needed to be disposed of. One sharp operator I heard about, apparently found a use for it and the other waste products from sand mining as topdressing that concrete slabs were poured on. Imagine, this was the best use our best minds could find for the most energy dense material in the world. And potential power prices as low or lower than 2 cents per KwH. Even so, a bunch of witless, left-leaning loonie toons will go on and on about the radioactivity, even as many are living right on top of a concentrated pile of the stuff and experiencing the health benefits of the consequent hormesis. Need I say more than that or draw attention to the fat, the only time the word nuclear is mentioned in relation to energy, seems to be during the wee small hours when those who censor our thoughts and public broadcasting are tucked up in the beddie byes. Even Aunty seems to have climbed aboard this particular bandwagon, given a recent Sunday morning discussion between two conservative thinkers with the loudest most extreme filling the airwaves with his apparent conclusions, i.e., you couldn't have cheap energy lower prices and simultaneously lower emissions! When the other invitee attempted to refute that, was quickly shut down by the CONTROLLING male presenter. And replicated almost everywhere you look, as folk who haven't a clue are placed in charge of dissemination public information!? and where can't validate has been replaced by WON'T!? And then we wonder why there's an energy crisis, the parlous state of the nation and routinely BETRAYED TRUST, along with fake news, shovelled by the shipload? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:59:24 AM
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Writing from Germany.
You might ask yourself: Who is delivering you the mainstream media news? Could those people be tempted to push their own agenda? Helmut Markwort is one of the top journalists in Germany, founder of the news magazine FOCUS as well as several radio stations. Check his statement in the following interview starting at time stamp 10:30: Journalists have been asked and replied anonymously which party they would vote for. The majority tends to the Green party. (which is a splinter party in Germany with around 11%) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08bCsyuMoio Does the Green party have an agenda? Of course, but nowadays it is not the environment any more but to support Merkel and have unlimited and uncontrolled immigration. Would you think that those green journalists prefer to deliver news that support their agenda? The answer is up to you. Isn't it funny that the original poster writes: "95% of Green voters trust the public broadcasting system" Greens and the left have been on the "long march through the institutions" since 1968, and by now have infiltrated everything in Germany, not only the media. News that don't support their view are therefore branded "fake news", and in reality the reader or viewer has no way anyway to decide what is fake and what is real. Hasn't history proven that the news from those in power were fake many times? If I would publish my opinion (end the open borders) under my real name in Germany I would certainly have to look for a new job. And my wife, too. The left and the green have everything under control, even those people with different opinions because nobody dares to speak out any more. BTW: It has taken only three year of mass immigration to Germany not only to totally divide the society, but now the Merkel government is facing the end and the whole political system is disintegrating rapidly. Posted by DTM, Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:31:53 PM
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Fake news just half of the problem of public figures lying/misrepresenting the facts?
The other is routinely suppressed inconvenient facts that if allowed, would impact negatively on this or that commercial operation? Does it strike anyone as passing strange that funding for the Oak Ridge thorium powered MSR was pulled by President Nixon, just as it was about to demonstrate its ability to generate the lowest power prices in the world? And then later, the authorities wanted to bury the remaining stored stocks of U233, a most significant precursor of miracle cancer cure bismuth 213. And have since, one believes, at the behest of ultra-powerful fossil fuel companies and big nuclear!? Invoked prohibition orders on thorium and its R+D!? The latter/big nuclear, whose primary business model is centred on/served by fuel enrichment and fabrication, which is where they make most of their money given, it would seem, they have built their reactors at a loss so as to sell, as the CONTRACTED sole provider, the enriched fabricated fuel, which is where they make their billions!? Imagine how much solid fuel fabrication there would be if one ton of liquefied fuel could replace around 2550 tons of enriched fabricated fuel and the reason for the prohibition order on MSR thorium becomes apparent. Particularly with the former being as rare as platinum and the latter as abundant and common as lead . It's just not fake news we need to be concerned over, but the deliberate official suppression of inconvenient factual information be it thorium or collusion with the Russians? Or denial of important public figure information, if validated, would render them completely unsuitable for the office, i.e., paedophile priests/immoral sex offending Judges etc-etc. Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 23 September 2018 12:07:58 PM
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Gee whiz, Thomas.
Do you mean that after decades of left wing domination of the media, where violence and criminal behaviour by immigrants was downplayed, or not mentioned at all? Where the left wing dominated media claimed that Muslim terrorism committed by Muslims screaming "Allahu akbar!" had nothing to do with Islam? Where problems associated with multiculturalism are hardly mentioned, or excused away? Where photographs of drowned immigrant children are given the page one treatment, but where adolescent white girls blown to pieces by bombs planted by "refugees" are never shown at all? Where we got nothing but disinformation on everything associated with the negative social consequences of third world immigration into western countries? And now the Left is whining because the Right has learned from your tactics, and is turning the table on you? But at least the Left does not have to put up with official government repression, or "progressive" corporations like Facebook and Google censoring their online articles. Look, Thomas. Socialism has never worked. The idea of a borderless world is insanity. People are not equal. Races are not equal. Cultures are not equal. Your ideology is not the thinking of intelligent people, no matter how much your lefty leaders try to present it to you as being just that. It is the ideology of naive and easy to con idiots. And you know what, Thomas? The smart university types, the ones doing STEM courses, are starting to figure that out. Your ideology survives by group think and the fashionable belief that always sneering at your own race and culture is what "smart" people do. It can only deal with it's glaring contradictions and misrepresentations through the suppression of free speech. That is why the Left is so desperate to shut up their opponents and control the media, and the narrative. And you are doing your bit to help them. Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 23 September 2018 1:40:44 PM
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Is Mr Klikauer really suggesting that the right is starting to catch up with the left in using spin lies, half truths, & full blown propaganda, & presenting the whole filthy result as news?
Wow that would be an achievement, but unlikely. The left have so much practice at it, & it goes naturally with their nature & world view. Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 23 September 2018 5:16:44 PM
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//Is Mr Klikauer really suggesting that the right is starting to catch up with the left in using spin lies, half truths, & full blown propaganda, & presenting the whole filthy result as news?//
I'm not sure I'd call Murdoch left-wing, Hasbeen. Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 23 September 2018 7:20:46 PM
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OMG people in this country are dumb.
People from university, they seem even dumber by a wide margin. 'bourgeois'? Whats wrong with the word 'middle-class' you brainwashed commie? Anyone who uses that word is intent on destroying society. The 'fake news' narrative is Hegelian dialectic 'problem, reaction solution' in it's purest form. Firstly, the fake news narrative is an agenda. It's an attempt to sell the public {who have now been well and truly inundated and indoctrinated with socialist ideology) on the idea of 'censorship' of whoever the left deems should be censored. Secondly, if the right have actually taken their gloves off and decided to fight fire with fire, in the same way the leftist corporate media uses selective editing, omissions, open bias, narrative and conjecture to convey their 'facts' then good for them. Corporate media have lost the ability to lie to the people with impunity in the age of the internet and they seek to regain that, but even more they seek to lock everything down so there is never any going back to the more unified nationalist countries we were. Now we are all supposed to be global socialists in support of the New World Order and anyone who doesn't agree is a racist, and a danger to society that need to be dehumanised, demonetised and censored. Cause enough hell on earth so that mass migration occurs and that more people identify as immigrants than nationalists, and it's game over for every western nation on earth signed up to UNESCO policies and hello New World Order and Global Government, not too far away now. You make me sick, and belong in the gulag you've already built in your mind for those who don't agree with you. There should be a law against wasting taxpayers funds on teaching people like you how to become dumber than you already were to begin with. Seriously. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 24 September 2018 4:43:52 AM
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What's wrong with New World Order? Great song by a great band. Some people just don't appreciate good metal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqvLToWH7k Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 24 September 2018 5:14:58 AM
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"Fake News", that which has not been provided by an approved source. The Media "activists with bylines".
Posted by McCackie, Monday, 24 September 2018 8:49:48 AM
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Fake News, hmmm I am sure it exists but it is always possible to read
past it. You get to know which sources are reasonably reliable. You see stories confirmed in other reliable sources. There are some stories that can be checked by looking up legal sources. As far as it goes here, the suppression of news is quite common. Did you see the report of the house invasion in Melbourne recently. The one where they smashed in through the front door and placed a knife in the wife's vagina to demand the keys to a safe. She was pregnant and lost the baby after they stompted on her belly. It never appeared on the TV in Sydney and I will bet it did not in Melbourne. That is one side of the fake non-news in this case. The other side mostly used overseas in saying that those who commit an offense while calling out Allah Akbar are "mentally disturbed". However that is not an unreasonable coverup as they are probably a descendant of a long line of cousin marriages. Now let us see, if Australia falls into line with the policies of the Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC), the Islamic United Nations alternative, and its anti Islamaphobia campaign for what I have written above I could expect a visit from the police. The left are very much in favour in Europe of that campaign. It is all part of the fake news scene. Watch for signs of that campaign in the coming election. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 24 September 2018 4:28:50 PM
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Hey Toni,
I haven't heard Ministry in years, they had a song 'Hero' I liked. My favorite metal band from back in the day was Kreator. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9R8WnyMDV0&index=5&list=OLAK5uy_lLI12MNvZLyaM3f-DtRd3p4dzRHKAj1L0 Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 24 September 2018 10:22:35 PM
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But what interests me the most from this article, is this quote;
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…AFD voters, trust in public broadcasting TV is at 36%. In contrast, 95% of Green voters trust the public broadcasting system…*
Those figures would match our own. More demonstration to me, the ABC is run by a bunch of green homosexuals.