Nazism or populism? Well, either if your IQ is roughly equal to the ambient temperature. The world has never ever been more divided and heading for a cliff!?

Because this is so! We need to reboot and focus on what unites us and how we can bring everyone with us! Rather than white supremacists, the KKK or whatever.

Time to build bridges, not burn them down!
Alan B.

fools who describe anyone wanting to point out or debate Islamic terrorism or Immigration as facist, racist, far right etc have done a lot to help this mess. Merkel's pig headedness against the will of the people was always going to cause trouble with many locals raped and abused by invaders. Added to this the getup/antifa thugs who won't even let people speak at uni's who don't agree with their perverted views demonstate the real need for the real swamp to be drained. Yep its one big mess and the facist left have done far more to contribute than the much smaller number of neo nazis. Strangely enough the facist left seem to hate Israel and Jews as much if not more than the boof headed ultra right.

Eyeroll, Sigh.

"nobody needs to talk about the twelve years [of Nazism] anymore"

Except the leftstream media

"they no longer shape our identity"

Oh, they will always shape your identity in Left-O-Vision.

The protesters in Chemnitz were ordinary citizens. There aren't that many neo-Nazis.

So the liberal capitalists are evil. The neo-Nazis are evil.
Whatever shall we do?!
How about something East Germans have never tried before? Like... COMMUNISM!

What's the point of bringing up the past when no-one's learning from it ?

Thomas, you have completely lost the plot.

I don't know where you get the idea that Europeans are just ecstatic about being completely replaced in their own homelands by people from a completely hostile culture, who values are diametrically opposed to European culture, but you had better get out of whatever groupthink wine bar you inhabit, go outside, and have a look around.

Birds of a feather, just keep flocking together, Thomas, regardless of what your open border ideology preaches. And the fact that people of any particular culture prefer to live among their own kind, just happens to be a cultural universal. Just in case you haven't noticed, every western city in the world is braking up into ethnic enclaves and spurring white flight. Multiculturalism is exactly like socialism, how many times does it need to fail before the supposedly "intelligent" activist caste flashes on the fact that it is complete stupidity?

Now you can write articles preaching that those in Germany and the rest of Europe, who do not want their countries destroyed and their identities submerged by endless immigration, as Nazis. But if you do, you just happen to give the real Nazis a round of applause from the long ignored European public. Forced to choose between social self suicide and becoming part of the Islamic fascist caliphate, most Europeans would choose the European fascists every time. At least the Nazis have always claimed that they are the defenders of European culture against the barbarian hordes. While your open borders clique appear to have nothing but hatred for the western world that they choose to live in.

The times, they are, a changin' Thomas. Endless immigration from the third world into the western world is the Vietnam issue of today. You are losing the white youth, and you are on the wrong side of history

"Repeating AfD messages creates the impression that this is mainstream news. One of the most repeated AfD messages is Merkel has opened the borders! This is nonsense, writes Schreiber, as Germany's borders upended under the Schengen agreement signed in 1985."

You've got to be kidding me right?
Even Washington Post said 1 million refugees in 2015, who knows how many all up to date?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/04/germany-welcomed-more-than-1-million-refugees-in-2015-now-the-country-is-searching-for-its-soul/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a711c6f67cb9

- You're just trying to play silly little word tricks to twist things around and reframe the issue to give the impression of innocence, or ignorance of the problem or something.

Thomas, you might want to look into this mate:
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/delusional-disorder-symptoms/
- If not for yourself but for the sake of others around you.

Finally do you understand 'cause and effect'?

Like in 'Braveheart' when William Wallace threw that small rock at his big mates forehead?

Well you or those like you let these people in;
To rape and commit crimes against the existing citizens;
- And some of those citizens obviously aren't too pleased about it, NO.
In fact their not happy at all, not one little bit.
And you and your kind made the problem, not them.
Don't blame them for something you caused.

The Alternative for Germany: nazism or populism?

I'd have thought the answer was as simple as no more islamic migration & do what Austria,Hungary & Poland are doing, close down mosques & islamic indoctrination facilities.

I suspect from what I have read that this article is exaggerated.
True it does seem that a number of the looney right, err wait a minute,
the Nazis were socalists, so rephrase it, that a number of the
old looney left have joined the AfD.
They are in opposition to the new looney left.

Merkel sits somewhere or other slightly to the left of centre.
It is on her head that she allowed the entry of such numbers of people
who are dedicated to the introduction of sharia law.
These people have a culture that is directly opposed to the western
culture that arose from the decay of the Roman Empire.
This clash that is occurring in Europe was inevitable.

It is summed up in the statement to the court by a man charged with
the stabbing of a German. In our culture it is normal to stab someone
who insults you or your family. He could not see why he was being detained.
What we are seeing in Europe is not new it is just another attempt to
spread Islam into Europe. This time they have realised that the womb
is more powerful than the sword.

The problem is that the middle eastern people have never been able to
compromise with their culture and the western culture and have been at
war with Europe since the 8th century. Today, now that the western
culture has spread world wide the Islamic culture has followed it to
Nth America, Sth America and the Pacific.

SJWs. They honestly believe that Stalinism was good, just 'the thing with the Jews', Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Hungary, Stazi, Romania ad infinitum (sic!) should have been avoided.

Writing from Germany.

Let me correct several points. Not thousands of Neo-Nazis marched in Chemnitz but thousand of normal citizens to protest against the barbaric knife murder by migrants. Statistically you always have some Neo-Nazis when a group of 10,000 people gets together.

Neo-Nazis do not have a new political party since that would be against the law.

That "new" party AFD are not radical right wingers. They are not against Europe but against the EU. Their program and statements reflect the program of Merkel's CDU from about 15 years ago which was considered political centre at that time. Also Merkel said 2003 "multi-kulti has failed, absolutely failed". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am1iKqzY9G4

I am living in Germany and understand the language. Non of the AFD supporters I know is xenophobic. Many of those supporters are migrants themselves ... their phobia is that the public opinion in Germany might turn against themselves, the well integrated migrants, because of the many violent intruders and criminals that enter the country without borders. On average there are now 10 knife attacks by migrants per day in Germany, 7 of which happening in Berlin. People start to get uneasy.

The mentioned book from Sarrazin "Germany abolishes itself" was written 2010 and most has been proven correct in the mean time. You can compare to the reality of today.

I know roughly 200 people here in Germany, and never met a Neo-Nazi. But it is very convenient for the Government to call all people that don't love Merkel, Nazis. It is working perfectly, and it causes an unbelievable division of the society.

Germany is deeply divided, and many can't say what is worse: the ongoing influx of people from the middle East and Africa (about 300,000 per year now), who know they will never in their life need to work again once they arrive in Germany, or the fact, that normal citizens who criticise what is going on will get threatened and physically attacked by leftist do-gooders. The writing on the wall reads civil war within the next few years.

Enough for today - back to packing our boxes

renysol,
Please continue to counter the misinformation spread by the media here, we need more from the horses mouth. It may help go some way towards curbing indoctrination via fake information here.

No more comments on this thread, does that mean problem solved or just standard apathy & indifference ?

The problem is neither solved nor can it be solved.

In regards to the suspicious AFD party in Germany, in the latest polls they now have the majority in the eastern half of Germany.

The problem in Germany can not be solved peacefully anymore since the Germans are totally divided and the extremists on both sides of the spectrum seem to become more and more extreme all the time.

I wrote some months ago here that I could post short summaries of the development and the mood in Germany, however, the copyright laws are in the way, I guess. I am not sure.

//I wrote some months ago here that I could post short summaries of the development and the mood in Germany, however, the copyright laws are in the way, I guess.//

I fail to see how that would be the case. I post excerpts from all manner of sources on here all the time; if you're posting material that isn't your own just attribute it properly and it should be fine.

"the fair use of a copyrighted work, … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright"

https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/4-case-fair-use-australia/what-fair-use

The centre of interest now seems to be shifting to the EU Commission
and President Junker.
The commission has voted to censor Hungary and has yet to move on
sanctions such as removing Hungary's right to vote in the commission/parliament.
Pres Junker has said that Europe's future is Africa.
As he is in favour of open borders I presume he means uncontrolled
immigration from Africa. That seems to be the idea he is pushing.
I suspect that things are about to move quite dramatically in Europe.

Regarding copyright laws, I have to obey the German laws since I am (still) in Germany, and copyright is much tougher here in Germany.

What idea Juncker is pushing I can't tell. Maybe he as well as Merkel want to save their faces and keep continuing what they did in the past while secretly hoping the circumstances will change for some external reasons.

There are rumours that a delegation from the German government has been to Australia to find out how Australia is securing its borders. On the other hand, Merkel sticks to her statement that it is impossible to secure European borders with Africa, as this is the Mediterranean sea.

An example for the abovementioned external reasons is 2015. After Merkel said in September 2015 everybody can come, about 10,000 refugees poured into Germany per day. Merkel categorically refused to close the Balkan route in order to stop the influx. "We will not close any route!" Days later other countries closed the Balkan route, and as we now know with relative certainty, German government was secretly relieved about it.