Once again - so what!

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Hobby Lobby Blessed Is The Nation Whose God Is Lord

On the Daily Beast website : Star Wars & God Emperors The Sci-Fi Roots of the Far Right, which features David Auerbach interviewing a fully fledged American psychpath.
Strangely enough, but not really, the wife of this monstrosity is the USA ambassador to the Vatican.

The plot sickens.

Comedy is all about mockery, inversion, pointing out social absurdities.
It cannot live in the same space as political "correctness", sensitivity training and protected categories of people.
Oil and water.

I enjoyed the article but I don't
understand why all the criticism of the BBC.
After all they did air shows such as - "Yes, Minister,"
"Fawlty Towers," "Absolutely Fabulous," 'Are You Being
Served," to name just a few.
And personalities like Stephen Fry, Atkinson, and many others
got their start on the BBC.

I think Russel you have missed the point.
The political correctness and the lefty objections to everything are
as funny as Monty Python, together with that comedy paper the Guardian
are in fact the current comedy field.
Think of all the laughs you can get out of transgender and they have
not yet started on sex jokes with transgender. There is a tremendous
opportunity for a comedy series in just that field.
Most of the comedy on TV is on at 6pm and 7pm.
Of course 7-30 is a real howler.
Another good comedy show is Q&A on Mondays.
I am afraid Russel you just have not kept up with it all.

Dear Bazz,

They could use you on the BBC.

No wonder comedy sucks in this day and age.
So comedy is dead, because the old type of comedy (the kind we actually used to laugh at) is either no longer politically correct, or considered too sensitive for the immigrants swamping us to cope with?
- Thanks for solving that mystery for me Russell.

//So comedy is dead, because the old type of comedy (the kind we actually used to laugh at) is either no longer politically correct, or considered too sensitive for the immigrants swamping us to cope with?//

I dunno, mate. I don't know what kind of comedy you like. 'The kind we used to laugh at' isn't very specific. But since the article referenced Monty Python's Flying Circus, and I naturally assume everybody loves Monty Python as much as I do (more than life itself; Monty Python was the finest comedy group the world will ever see) I guess by the 'old type of comedy' you mean absurd sketch comedy.

And I'm totally with you. Sketch comedy done well is the best form of comedy. And it's been ages since we had a good sketch show on the telly - the last one that springs to mind is 'That Mitchell & Webb Look'. The BBC do seem to be mostly churning out sitcoms at the moment, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Some of their finest comedies - Fawlty Towers, Only Fools & Horses, Blackadder, The Young Ones, Red Dwarf - are sitcoms.

And along with all the poor-to-average sitcoms come some quite decent ones. 'Upstart Crow' has been quite good - a Ben Elton effort, and quite Blackadder-esque. It doesn't quite compare to the brilliance of his earlier work, but David Mitchell makes a fine bard and there are plenty of laughs to be had. Also worth checking out is 'Back', also starring David Mitchell. The humour can be a little dark and it's definitely not PC, so maybe not for everybody's tastes. But I thought it was a scream.

A good place to keep your ear to the ground, as it were, is BBC Radio 4. I started tuning in online a few years back because they often replay the classic radio comedies I enjoyed as a lad, like 'I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again' and 'The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy'. Most of the great sketch shows of the last 20-ish years have had their genesis on Radio 4 before they jumped to TV - The League of Gentleman, Little Britain and Mitchell & Webb were all radio programs before moving to the small screen.

For the last few years Radio 4 has been host to one of the funniest sketch comedies I've heard/seen in years. It's called 'John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme', and I really wish somebody would hurry up and give John Finnemore a TV slot. Lord knows he deserves one. And those who are more concerned about the identity politics of their comedians than whether or not their jokes are funny will be pleased to know that all the cast of the show are white, although some are women. As to whether or not the jokes are funny, I'll let you be the judge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbk4lmrdF8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX4KuEAYIYY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LHkN6fmY6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sgWqiXvtN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIEAWN45CN8&index=7&list=RDfkZMYtic9FY

If you want to have a good laugh these days you turn off the TV & go to the Pub & listen to some good old swearing, cursing, non-PC jokes & general face to face interaction which is just plain old socialising that the Socialists abhore.

//If you want to have a good laugh these days you turn off the TV & go to the Pub & listen to some good old swearing, cursing, non-PC jokes & general face to face interaction which is just plain old socialising that the Socialists abhore.//

Lefties don't go to the pub? O.... kay.

Well that's definitely a new one. Sometimes I wonder where people get the strange ideas from. If you really think there are no lefties down the pub, I think it's probably time you burst your bubble and spent some time in the real world. Lefties are not aliens from the planet Teetotal, nor are they joyless puritans. They like a cold beer and a game of pool as much as the next man (even though I am remarkably crap at the game).

Got a good laugh many years ago in a pub where two locals one white the other black were having a good old yarn. As was their habit when another shout was due one said to the other "it's time you shouted a drink you black or white b.....d, depending whose turn it was.
Well, one day a tourist mob rolled up & an older white woman overheard one such exchange & she turned to the white bloke & said " that's disgusting & racist", upon which the black fellow turned to her & said "mind your own business you silly cow".
Just pure Gold.

Individual, brilliant. That's the kind of comradery and piss take I grew up with.
Being a wog in a world of skips', initially, then came the abo's, the spinks, the chinks, you get my drift.
Our circle of friends were from ALL backgrounds, cultures and creeds.
We did not see what 'others' saw.
We were just all mates, and some still are today.
These 'names' people find offensive today, I find offensive that I get called out on using them.
These names/words are part of MY life and I will attack anyone who has the audacity and arrogance to confront me about using them.
Anyone of my generation of ANY race, will know what I'm talking about and think back with fond memories of all the piss-take and name calling.
They were terms of endearment, not slurs.
The person trying to call out the one seemingly being racist, has shown their hand by chastising the whitey for his apparent racial slur.
I have to put all the pansy arsed PC halfwits in their place at this time, by saying; If you see two or more people 'slagging off' at each other, with smiles on their faces, or better still, laughing, just shut the f@(k up and move on and go tear up your PC book.
You are not part of that interaction, so it is none of your business.
Had they been exhibiting anger and even gotten physical, it's still none of her business.
She has no idea what led to this fracas.
She is the one who has shown herself to be the racist by speaking out.
If your not a racist you don't comment.
Oh, how I miss the comedy of old.
I was shocked (pleasantly) recently when 'Kingswood country' was back on air.
Being a wog I loved the slagging off he used to give his wog son-in-law.
The reason I was shocked is because the poofters and the nany's have taken control of our speech and this show was, 'absolutely un-acceptable' by their regressive standards.
I enjoyed the show till, all of a sudden, gone!

Lefties don't go to the pub and have a yarn, they go to the microbrewery and dissect structural inequalities.

//Lefties don't go to the pub and have a yarn, they go to the microbrewery and dissect structural inequalities.//

Well if by 'microbrewery' you mean my mate's laundry where we do our homebrew, and if by 'dissect structural inequalities' you mean complain about the Government, then I would say that that is a fairly accurate summation.

But if you think lefties and hipsters are the same thing and that we're all craft beer drinking twats, I invite you to come and have a few pints of homebrew (or Guinness, if you don't fancy homebrew) with me some time and meet a real lefty, rather than the caricature you imagine us to be. Unless you're afraid of having your disillusions shattered, that is.

Seriously, have you guys ever met any lefties in person? Because it doesn't sound like you have. How on earth can you be so sheltered? I've met plenty of tories face to face.

Toni lavis,
I have had to work with lefties for most of my working life. If I never have to have anything to do with another one I'll be very happy indeed.
I found them to be nothing more than a hindrance in a practical environment & disruptive to the point of being a waste of time & space & unaffordable in the administrative sector. It's sort of self-explanatory why you don't run into lefties outside the Public Service.

"Anyone of my generation of ANY race, will know what I'm talking about and think back with fond memories of all the piss-take and name calling.
They were terms of endearment, not slurs."

Some people don't get it.
They say we were a 'white racist' Australia', but it's not the real story, or the whole story is it ALTRAV?
It's like they're rewriting history, and its not the truth by any measure.
Because something good in amongst that alleged 'racist' environment was lost, and now issues really are race-based, petty and divisive and they claim this is better?

Well, I don't know about that.

//I have had to work with lefties for most of my working life. If I never have to have anything to do with another one I'll be very happy indeed.//

Given that about half the population votes Labor, that shouldn't really come as a great surprise to anybody. I'd be amazed if you'd never had to work with anybody who doesn't have differing political views to yourself. I don't why you think that's such a big deal: the work still gets done the same by lefties as it does by tories. Food doesn't care what your political views are; it cooks the same either way.

//It's sort of self-explanatory why you don't run into lefties outside the Public Service.//

I work in hospitality. I didn't realize that hotels were considered as part of the Public Service, but then again they are called pubs and they do serve people. Seems obvious when you think about it.

But hold on, I'm confused. Only yesterday you were talking about how much you love the Pub(lic Service). And now suddenly you've decided that you've gone off the pub, because it's staffed by lefties. Can you make up your mind as to whether you like the pub or not?

work with anybody who doesn't have differing political views to yourself. I
Toni Lavis,
This is not about having different views, this is about usefulness & responsibility & sense.
Lefties are devoid of those qualities, real Labor supporters aren't. In case you hadn't noticed & I'm certain you haven't, the ALP is not Labor.

Toni Lavis,
I forgot to add that if Pubs were managed by the Pub(lic) Service, there wouldn't be any Pubs, they'd all have gone broke because a beer would be unaffordable to cover the mismanagement expenses.

//This is not about having different views//

Yes, yes it is. Having differing political views is what differentiates tories from lefties. If lefties all agreed with tories, or vice versa, there'd be no distinction betwixt the two.

//Lefties are devoid of those qualities, real Labor supporters aren't.//

Are you kidding me? Most Labor supporters are lefties. There are tory Labor supporters, but not many. Most tories rally under the banner of Libs.

//the ALP is not Labor.//

Sorry, what? The ALP is not the Australian Labor Party? Are you high or something?

Toni Lavis,
The ALP is not Labor ! The acronym was for Australian Labor Party until 1972.
After Goaf & Co hijacked the sanity component of Labor it became Academic Leeches Party.

//The ALP is not Labor ! The acronym was for Australian Labor Party until 1972.
After Goaf & Co hijacked the sanity component of Labor it became Academic Leeches Party.//

Are you senile? Because you're not making a whole lot of sense there, mate.

If Labor aren't the Labor Party, who is? The DLP? I'm not sure if they have any sitting members at present, and even if they do the DLP is far cry from what it used to be: these days it's just a bunch of religious right, 'family values' type nutjobs. Far closer to the Rev. Fred Niles' Christian Democrats than any sort of recognisable Labour party.

Whitlam hasn't been an MP for 40 years. Maybe it's time to stop living in the past, mate.

Whitlam hasn't been an MP for 40 years. Maybe it's time to stop living in the past, mate.
Toni Lavis,
I'm trying to escape the past but his legacy still hampers daily life today.
You'll never be prepared to understand because you're too scared to jeopardise your comfort zone in favour of decency for all. I just don't happen to subscribe to your mentality of "I'm alright Jack, stuff you !"
You see, to care means to actually care not just pretending to care. Come back with one of your standard quips when you understand or grow the gonads to understand.
Australia will never recover from Goaf's idealist runaway administration.

//I'm trying to escape the past but his legacy still hampers daily life today.//

Oh? How so? Whitlam was a bit before my time; I'm not entirely sure what policies he implemented and how many of those have been repealed or amended beyond recognition over the last 4 decades.

Which specific Whitlam policies still hamper your daily life today, and how do they hamper it?

//You'll never be prepared to understand//

My, how convenient. Certainly saves you the trouble of making any sort of effort to clarify your ramblings if I'll 'never be prepared to understand'. Very convenient indeed.

//because you're too scared to jeopardise your comfort zone in favour of decency for all. I just don't happen to subscribe to your mentality of "I'm alright Jack, stuff you !"//

Eh, what? I'm starting to get the impression that you don't really know what left-wing means. It means caring about the most vulnerable in society; the 'every man for himself and devil take the hindmost' attitude that you've described is characteristic of tories. I don't share those values. I'm not sure why you think that I do. At what point have I ever said 'stuff you' to those less fortunate than myself?

//You see, to care means to actually care not just pretending to care.//

Oh right, I don't really care about people, I just pretend to care. If I really cared, I'd get behind the tories robbing the poor to pay the rich, golden shower economics, negative gearing, tax cuts for the big banks... all that sort of crap. If I really cared I'd vote for the Coalition, am I right?

But obviously I don't really care, but I'm too busy being worried about people at the bottom of the heap being given a fair day's pay for a fair day's work, and not seeing that fair day's pay being ripped from their wallets by greedy energy providers. I'm too bothered that we're importing skilled migrants when we have Aussies we could train to have those skills, thus avoiding the need for imports. I'm too bothered about the ever growing gap between rich and poor and this country, and the social divisions that will inevitably rise from growing inequality. So I don't really care, which is why I vote Labor.

I guess I could try to care more... but if involves embracing tory values, I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork. Tories are ankles - they're about three foot lower than a cünt.

It means caring about the most vulnerable in society
Toni Lavis,
That's what it's supposed to mean, but actions from the Left have proven otherwise over the decades since Goaf.
btw. you're confusing Tories with Lefties.

//That's what it's supposed to mean, but actions from the Left have proven otherwise over the decades since Goaf.//

Again, I have to ask for details.

I'm completely in the dark here as to what you think was so awful about Whitlam, beyond the fact that his name was Whitlam, or what these horrible things the left have done are supposed to be.

I'm starting to think that you've never really put too much thought into it yourself... that's it's just something you've been taught but never questioned.

//btw. you're confusing Tories with Lefties.//

No, no I'm not. The tories are definitely the ones in favour robbing the poor to pay the rich, golden shower economics, tax cuts for big banks, importing foreign workers instead of training Aussies because 'it's good for the economy'.

But I'm starting to think that you either know that already and are just playing dumb in an effort to troll me, or you really are too thick to understand fairly basic political concepts like the broad differences betwixt the left and right wings.

I'm leaning towards the latter. I suspect that at some formative point in your life, you got it into your head that the left were the enemy and the right were your mates. And since that time, that is how you've categorised things: things that you like are good sound conservative Liberal values, things that you don't are nasty hateful lefty Labor values. And by extension anything that the Liberals say is good and sound, and anything that Labor says is anathema.

Never mind how their policies affect the poor bastards at the bottom of the heap... if the Liberals say that paying the poor less so that the wealthy can have more is actually helping the poor, it must be true.

Toni, I'm not sure it's as simple as you say.
Because politics today have morphed into one big cesspool.
It is difficult to tell them apart.
They are so entrenched in corruption and self interest, that it's a wonder we, the public get a look in at all.
Take this current bill about splitting the banks back into the two original structures, such as, a savings domestic bank and a commercial investment bank.
The right have pushed against it because Turncoat is an ex bwanker himself.
But what is even more surprising is Shorten, is not pushing it.
He is labour, he is supposed to be for the people, yet he has shied away and is not showing his hand.
They are one big happy dishonest group of people who are above the law, because in their wisdom they make the law, therefore they are the law.

Toni lavis,
I'm not a Kindergarten teacher nor do I have the patience of one & I don't hold a Blue Card.
You'll never understand because you don't want to understand because understanding would go against your bias & indoctrination. All I can suggest instead of lenghty explanations is to look up integrity & decency & eventually you may, just may grasp it all.

//You'll never understand because you don't want to understand because understanding would go against your bias//

OK, it seems that you're just not bright enough to hold up your end of this conversation. I don't think there's much point in continuing. Have fun with your crackpot beliefs.

Have fun with your crackpot beliefs.
Toni Lavis,
Will do & you continue with restraining yourself to your indoctrinated within the square thinking. Cheers