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Let’s kill welfare : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 3/7/2018

Around a decade from now, robots will be our prime source of productivity and we will lose control of them as robots will produce more robots without human input.

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Sorry Everand,
I read this first paragraph and couldn't read any more, it was just total fearmongering garbage.
What we actually need are new systems that safeguard and ensure human usefulness.

Unfortunately, I fear you'll probably be right in the end whatever you wrote because it's acually a design to centralise power and enslave us.

The people won't hold politicians accountable, who also couldn't sit down a devise a good policy if their lives depended on it, and are all globalist sellouts anyway, so we're pretty much stuffed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 9:29:39 AM
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Thank you.

I am so tired of delusional libertarians who think we can abolish "welfare" when these inevitable trends to automation will continue replacing human labour.

But...

"The key issue is that no matter what is the otherwise infinite capacity of robots, they will never ever be able to have or exercise a conscience. This remains our greatest asset in the quest for relevance in the years ahead."

It's also a potential threat.
Robots and AI computing data in purely rational ways may make decisions and conclusions totally unacceptable to real humans, with their instinctual and spiritual dimensions.

I agree with the redefinition of "welfare" as simply a living costs necessity for *citizens*.

And that's the dilemma.
We cannot allow immigration to continue with such a scheme.
We also cannot permit dual citizenships, that may allow double-dippers claiming payments from more than one country.
Posted by Shockadelic, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 10:39:05 AM
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AC,

I am not even going to read the first paragraph. This man is another "blowie".
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:14:32 AM
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Not necessarily! To be sure the future will be very different. we can and should own it or allow a few self-serving self-centred deplorably stupid, selfish people to kill it and all life as we know and understand it.

Around the sun, there are three planets in the habitable zone. One is Venus, the HOTTEST planet in the solar system its atmosphere made dense and heavy by oceans of evaporated oceans And our virtual fate as its second hottest sister without a change of course.

No, I am not bagging Automation. Just the dolts at the helm, guiding the ship of state toward just two possible futures, Shangri-La and universal wealth for all Or coal-fired hell!

And like Autonomous cars, we will always need a hand on the wheel to control outcomes and anything we or our metal servants create or repair.

The only thing missing in the first option is both affordable carbon-free baseload power and cooperative capitalism. That we will need to activate the economic miracle that makes the first projected future possible.

Albeit, rigidly resisted by the current ruling class.

Ruled or intellectually crippled by their own fundamentally flawed avaricious ambition/appetites!? POVERTY CONSCIOUSNESS!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:16:50 AM
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Plenty of jobs pulling coal out of the ground in order to give other nations power. Unfortunately we are to dumb to give ourselves cheap electricity.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:34:59 AM
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When did we stop calling Government workers public servants? Maybe we should go back to it.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:31:16 PM
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