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Breaking the seal of the confessional : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 26/6/2018

The concept is similar to the duty of confidentiality which obliges legal advisors to respect their clients' affairs.

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Peter Bowden. One of the more dangerous anti conservative Libertarian anti-Christians.
He should be silenced!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:03:14 AM
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It would be a very brave or very stupid government that interfered with the Catholic confessional. And, who says the the few priests who have committed offences have ever confessed them; or that future offenders would confess? If governments espousing freedom of religion start dictating what goes on within a church, the wheels will start falling off shortly after.

“The NSW government needs to 'desanctify' the confessional”. So much for the separation of church and state. But, the most absurd thing with this anti-Catholic waffle is the naive belief that what is said, one priest to another, in a little private box, will be revealed just because a law might be passed saying it should; if anything is said about child abuse, that is - and there is no proof that there have ever been any confessions of sexual crime. Compulsory electronic surveillance, perhaps?

Where 90% of sexual abuse is committed by relatives of the victims, there is no excuse for singling out the Catholic church - except as an opportunity for cultural Marxists to continue discriminating against the Christian religion.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:27:02 AM
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The protection of kids ought to trump all and every other consideration. The 'church', meaning any and all religious groups ought to be subjected too, and prosecuted under all secular law.

And no, I am not anti-abortion!
Posted by petere, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:51:48 AM
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//And, who says the the few priests who have committed offences have ever confessed them//

The priests who have committed offences.

"Father Michael McArdle made an affidavit in 2004 stating he had confessed 1500 times to molesting children to 30 different priests over a 25-year period.

After being forgiven 1500 times in face-to-face confessions with his fellow priests, the Queenslander was told merely to “go home and pray”."

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/06/14/confession-child-abuse-royal-commission/
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:09:24 AM
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I wonder if the Indigeneous activist who are turning a blind eye to child abuse today are going to be held accountable for turning their eyes from long time cultural practices. Maybe secret 'mens' business might need some examination. While I am no fan of the Catholic church I find Peter's obsession as an 'ethicist' puzzling. The fact that he supports so called 'gay' marriage and killing the unborn shows that his ethics don't come from decency or biology. Isn't is that other 'ethicist' singer who says bestiality is fine as long as consensual. These guys certainly don't get their ethics by thinking rationally or science.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:11:53 AM
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«Both Archbishops Hart and Fisher are out of step with Australian moral values.»

There is this which is moral and there is this which is immoral. How foolish to think that time, geography and popularity could change that!

Hatred of religion knows no bounds, underlying which is the fear of morality. Australia is gradually descending into darkness, thus we need to prepare for martyrdom.

But today, let me address some practical aspects: it won't change the minds of those whose primary motivation is to oppress religion, but it may change the minds of those who genuinely care about child sexual abuse.

Confession is not in the sole domain of churches: criminals who wish to repent, to ease their burden of guilt and try to reform, have historically also confessed to therapists and support-groups, including within secular, left-leaning and new-age workshops.

Due to mandatory reporting laws, criminals who want to reform are already barred from accessing therapy - no counselling, doctors or psychologists for them to help them overcome their addiction. Result? they keep offending!

There are therapeutic group-workshops where confidentiality is absolute just like the Catholic confessional. All participants and staff vow that whatever they hear there stays in that room, no matter what, even if someone confesses "I killed and ate my grandmother". With the new laws of disclosure, such workshops too would have to close down. Even when such workshops are not focused on sexuality, they can no longer go ahead, for fear that child-sexual-abuse might somehow be mentioned within.

Similarly, there are victims, abused-children who want to tell their experience and be healed, but many of which DO NOT want to perpetuate the pain by having their offenders jailed on their behalf - they too no longer have recourse to healing. They too are more likely to become perpetrators themselves.

The new "Australian moral values" seem to be about revenge and against forgiveness. God and Christ have been banished, so some are very happy about it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:39:48 AM
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