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A future without Adani : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 23/2/2018

The water needed to open up the black soil country for agriculture can easily be diverted from the tropical rivers of the north at an affordable cost.

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Professional detractors like OUr Russian friend Adian are forever rubbishing thorium and virtually anyone who, through scientific understanding, advocates it! He continually challenges The figure of 2 cents per KwH as the median!

One need look no further than Ivy League Professor (ret) Economist and author of, Thorium cheaper than coal. To have this number confirmed by someone more economically literate than the world's leading expert on everything, Russian troll Adian.

Suggest you get online and Google tech talks to get the estimated numbers straight from a world leading economist's mouth and where he says the median is $001.98. Or if you will one point nine eight cents! Quote unquote!

Power that cheap has to make already cost effective desalinated irrigation water, desalinated using space age deionisation dialysis, even more cost effective, as potable irrigation water for broad scale agriculture, virtually anywhere we can pipe or pump it!

I would also advise listening to eminent Scientist and nuclear technologist Kirk Sorensen, one of a handful of nuclear experts to have toured the facility at Oak Ridge, talked at length to the very scientists who ran it, without accident or incident, between the fifties and seventies and only stopped because the funding, all of it, was pulled.

Kirk is one of a very few having complete access to all the scientist's ACCURATE notes daily diaries pertaining to this operation and its history.

And quite scahting in his rebuttal of some of thorium's debunkers. Who do you want to hear from, a fully informed nuclear expert of the usual raft of fear mongering anti nuke activists?

Which includes, it would seem, big nuclear, the fossil fuel industry and the professional propagandists claiming to be concerned environmentalists!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:10:59 AM
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Given the evidence of his routinely illogical or ill informed posts, Adian is one of those anti nuclear greenies, who thinks all we need is wind and solar and a battery backup?

Has no understanding of industry or the 24/7 nature of steel smelting? Or that even a 100MW battery would only be good for a mere 45 minutes or so, with relation to something as energy demanding as a direct reduction steel mill totally reliant on very big amperage arc furnaces!

And how does he expect our industry to compete for as much as our own dometic market with the energy/backup costs he would cripple it with?

Or perhaps our resident challenger of substantiated facts and evidence, thinks he and the unemployed he would create, could peddle fast enough for long enough to make good the shortfall, we can expect when the sun goes down and the wind dies in the ass!

And through the sheer genius of thinkers just like him and other intellectually superior experts on everything. Needs to challenge Nuclear technologist and former NASA scientist Kirk Sorensen, Or world leading economic Professor, Robert Hargreaves. Or prize winning Author and investigative journalist, Richard martin.

What make you thinks you know better genius! A massive superiority complex?

Just don't look or listen, except or if you would be fully informed by the facts and marshalled evidence!

London to a bridge he has never read or listened to any of those three, let alone all of them and or done more than merely skim their respective publications if at all!

Not alone but in good company with most of our alleged (coal addicted) representatives? Who are served by anything but the facts and substantiated evidence?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 February 2018 9:22:48 AM
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Sure we won't see thorium power as practical working walk away safe, molten salt, thorium reactors for at least seven years. Even if we remove the GOVERNMENT CREATED current prohibitions on, for peaceful purpose only, nuclear R+D!

And there is money waiting in the wings as soon as those, government created and imposed, prohibitions/rules and regs are removed!

And that's all that prevents progress here! And one assumes, in some forlorn hope that they can " motivate"? Some energy provider to build a new coal fired power station?

And in the face of a complete loss of appetite among the banking and investment fraternity or coal or fossil fuel?

As long as the coal fired dinosaurs in the room keep rubishing thorium, even though it is the most energy dense material on the planet! It'll remain merely a proposal!

Which shows just how clever these detractors really are and just how well they like paying over the odds for everything, with an energy component in it, which is after all everything we use or need!

And demonstrates as nothing else can just how clever the detractors are!

Whadda reckon? More money than brains? Or just gluttons for punishment?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 February 2018 9:43:50 AM
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Alan, I think your friends who feed you this 2 cents per KWH are failing to take account of the cost of the incredibly countless hours and money that is being spent trying to get thorium powered generators of any practical size running. It would not surprise me if you need to multiply that piffling amount by a factor of something more than ten before that happens. I am not sying that it won't be done some time in the future, but we would be better advised to build fourth generation reactors of proven design to produce power for our immediate needs into the foreseeable future.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Sunday, 25 February 2018 9:13:56 PM
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