Faustino, what does it take to make Aussies realise that these pigs are stealing millions from us.
The buy backs and the like you speak of are all to do with the pollies and their mates.
All these millions that change hands have a kick-back fee with every dirty deal. This is the norm.
I know, I have witnessed these dirty deals so I am very pissed off with the way the pollies rip millions out of the nations piggy bank, smiling and treating us like mushrooms as they are doing it.
I don't care if the Aussie public are too thick, stupid or lazy to see it, they can facilitate these pigs at their own expense.
I don't want them stealing MY money so I hate to see them getting away with it.
And what kind of BS are these millions to buy back OUR power. Where are the vigilantes or the X-men when you need them. I dream of making pork sausages in so doing wiping them out and into extinction.

Aidan,

There are many problems with renewable power incl

1 It is extremely expensive to install
2 Connecting to the networks is many times more expensive than other power sources, which is not generally included in basic costings.
3 It is intermittent to the point that it needs to be built with nearly 100% backup, which is generally also not included in basic costings.
4 Wind power installations typically have a life span of 20yrs before needing an almost complete rebuild.

The comparison with Nuclear power stations with life spans of 60yrs and more that require no back up and are cheap to network leave renewables looking pretty shabby.

Aiden, sorry I have just got on to your response.
My displeasure of renewables has to do with the current technology on offer. All the electricity creating mediums today are too costly, too unreliable, therefore requiring too much continual maintenance, upkeep, servicing and repairs.
You suggest that Australia has large expanses of land which I would agree are suitable because they are located in ares where there is an abundance of sun.
I still consider the cost per unit return, and I cannot in good conscience agree to an idea that I know to be flawed. Just the size of these wind and solar farms would be too large to be viable.
As I said, the current technology is not a viable contender for continual, reliable base load power as we have seen with coal, hydro and nuclear. A very rough way of assessing something like this is the theory that 'the more parts it has the more unreliable it is'. This immediately removes wind from the list. Solar also has a lot of parts (solar panels), these wear out and or fail like any man made object. Again the size of the solar farms would almost be the size of a city. Just a thought. Have you considered that the average household currently has at least 10 solar panels on the roof. If we assume this to be a sufficient number of panels to power a house we can see that just to start using solar we need an area the size of a capital city. And that's before we add the real power users, industry.
So no as much as I would love to see renewables take over, the sad fact that the people MUST accept is that the current offerings are nowhere near being serious contenders. A lot of the pollies and their mates are making a lot of money from these grants and research? I'll know when I will be satisfied with renewables, when I see them. These current offerings are mere lab rats to demonstrate proof of concept but not to be taken seriously.

ALTRAV, there are a lot of people, and I know some, who think that we
HAVE to use renewables no matter what.
They do not believe that renewables cannot do the job. Wishful thinking ?

When blackouts become common they will say it is worth it but it might
help if frequent blackouts cause an economic collapse.
I have put that thought to them but they pooh hoo such suggestions.
There are some who would live in a tent in the scrub rather than use coal.

' There are some who would live in a tent in the scrub rather than use coal.'

I doubt it Bazz, most warmist are complete hypocrites. They fly the globe preaching to others about emissions. They are similar to our Indigeneous guys who could not live a week in the bush while glorifying culture.

Bazz I agree with runner. You are quite right about those who 'have to have renewables, no matter what'. We must accept that there is a real problem of knowledge, intelligence and common sense about todays people. They are gullible, naive, un-informed, mis-informed, I think you get it. The govt relies on the people being this way, it makes it easier to con or fool them with their lies and PC promises. People lack maturity. We can see it in these stupid people who have to get rotten drunk to 'have a good time'. Disgusting. Even more so when you think these ignorant plebs are going to one day copulate, with anyone, and produce another crop of ignorant plebs. These are the people who are asked to vote and make life changing decisions. Now you can see the net result of this culture all around us from the laws to the social interactions. If it was up to me I would not let these people near a voting booth. Just throw a few cartons of beer in the opposite direction of the voting booths and problem solved. For the poofy set maybe some crates of Chardonnay. The problems with renewables is that they have not been developed to a commercial standard. All the modelling in the world is just that, modelling. So for those tree hugging green loving plebs out there, you have NO idea what you are talking about, so firstly go away and study up on these topics and when you think you've got it, study some more. The greens are a self serving lot of scabs who are praying on the lowest form of humanity. To confirm how stupid people are, they vote for a bunch of lying scheming deviants who have no experience or knowledge about politics let alone running a huge empire like a country with the huge responsibility to millions of people. They are way beyond the bounds of con-men. They should not be taken seriously. Pauline Hanson has more cred than these tree hugging cretins.