Dear Alan B.

You wrote;

“Fire destroys all understory, much of which like legumes, is absolutely essential to superior land management. As is ground aerated by earthworms and dung beetles etc.”

That is really pretty clueless my friend.

Aboriginal fire practices, at least in my area, are far less damaging than current CFA methods in fuel reduction. Just a couple of months ago there was a particular site that was split in two for the purposes of comparison for some fuel reduction. One was burnt using traditional methods and the other using current methods.

The traditional method required twice as many people and took twice to conduct, but the intensity was far less. The CFA was far quicker on the day however due to the intensity of the fire they had to monitor it over the next few days returning twice to attend to smoldering remnants.

We are in an area that was rich with murnong, a indigenous daisy yam, and it stretched for nearly 100 kilometers. The first explorers remarked on the endless fields of yellow murnong flowers. The murnong was a vital part of the traditional diet and fire was employed to keep these vast fields open for the propagation of it and the native grasslands.

This gives lie to the notion that indigenous fire practices in the area were scorching the earth and destroying legumes.

Given Arthur Phillip's friendly attitude towards the aboriginals (though sorely tested when they killed his gamekeeper), it is unlikely that he treated the Aboriginals as Conan would. That is :"To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."

Invasion day idiocy only confirms the need to sell the out of control ABC and cut funds to all "Studies..." courses at the Leftie preschool called Uni.

SteeleRedux, mate your exactly the reason this place is in the sh!t. You are a typically ignorant, arrogant, troglodyte with nothing to say or contribute of any kind.

You quote the poofter vote as if it is something to be proud of. You moron, have you looked outside your own backyard lately to what these fu(&wits are doing to society?

Get your head out of your arse and do some research about what's actually going on out there, instead of watching bloody sports all day.

While we're at it, if it wasn't for the post war immigrants, you'd still be sitting in your own faeces, wondering what to do next.

You really need to get real. Before you go shooting your mouth off any further, be aware that not just myself but my family, more specifically, my father was responsible for many new and innovative products which helped the Australian expansion into the mining and road transport industries, long before you realised you had half your brain missing.

I've got products out there and scores on the board.

Show me yours? No? Typical. Typical Aussie, shoot your mouth off thinking you know what your talking about. To another moronic Aussie, you would make perfect sense.

People like myself who are not sucked in to current fads and fantasies are a little more intelligent and mature and we burnt the Politically Correct book years ago, because we only speak, 'Correct'.

So luckily, I grew up with crap like you and being far more intelligent than you, I was already on the high ground. It appears you, on the other hand have chosen to go even further than the low ground, to below ground.

As for learning the history on this sh!thole, I've learned more than I care to know. And there really isn't anything worth knowing, until the post war migrants began arriving and doing things worth knowing.

To quote a well documented moron;

Come back when you are a little more educated.

Clown!

There mate, how did I do, Good?

Dear ALTRAV,

How did you go? Well let's see. I'm afraid repetition doesn't earn you too many points. Here let me show you. You went with sh!t, poofter, arse, faeces, crap, sh!thole. But I suppose there is a high likelihood there is something subliminal happening. Closeted maybe? Then there is this set; moron, moronic, moron. You see where I'm coming from, hardly the product of an inventive mind.

However I do give you credit for managing to alienate most of the posters on this forum who tend to be proudly typical Aussies even if they probably not in modern Australia. That was reasonable work so it elevates a ”D” to a substantial 'C” or possibly a “C+”.

Okay my turn.

My father served in the Australian armed forces in Korea and the Malayian Emergency. He later worked on the Snowy River Hydro scheme and helped with the construction of infrastructure like the Hobart Bridge and huge mining wharves around the country. Do you really think that without some reffo like your dad coming out and elbowing out hard working honest true blue Aussies out of a job we wouldn't have been able to do it ourselves? Bollocks.

What a self-entitled, obnoxious, upstart you are proving to be! How dare you slam the average Australian as moronic. And what about this?

“As for learning the history on this sh!thole, I've learned more than I care to know. And there really isn't anything worth knowing”

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So mate, nah withdraw the mate. So you pompous little new arrival, you come in here tell us we are all moronic, call the place a sh!thole, then on top of it all you feel you need to be consulted first before we return land to those who have been here for tens of thousands of years and have demonstrated far more love of country in their little finger than you could ever muster in a lifetime.

What makes you think you are entitled to even have a say in this? Or to refer to our indigenous brothers as abos? Or to even call yourself and Australian when you obviously don't have a single drop of fair go in your entire body?

You have a bloody nerve I will give you that. I have no idea why you weren't sorted out at school because slinging around the rubbish you have here in my day would have seen some sense knocked into you.

Why don't you pick up that over-entitled, totally ungrateful attitude and take it back to when you lot came from. I don't detect much Australian in you just a hell of a lot of discontent and we all know the risk discontented second generation immigrants can be to the county.

Better?

Steele, I think I'm in love :). When are you next in Adelaide ? Now that there is SSM .......

Joe