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Inconvenient fact: Native title can only exist if Australia was settled, not invaded : Comments

By Sherry Sufi, published 22/1/2018

Whether Australia's colonisation by the British Empire should be classified as an invasion or settlement is not a question of mere semantics.

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There is no doubt in my mind that if the British did just come ashore and were immediately accepted, it was a very short lived welcome.

If my take on events is right, it seems that the British were engaged in a similar 'war' as we all are today. I see little difference between the random attacks of ISIS on the world and the random attacks of the abo's on the Poms back then.

The Poms were settled in some form of structure like we are today (our homes). The abo's would come out of the bush attack at random and if they survived the retaliatory barrage of bullets, would return to their respective place of domicile somewhere in the bush.

No different than our terrorists of today. There is no doubt in my mind, semantics and interpretations aside, that the poms invaded, even if you call it a 'soft invasion'.

We are still tolerating the abo terrorists still today. Whether all the greens and lefties like it or not, QEII owns Australia, yes, OWNS.

I did not give my consent for that blithering bastard of a stupid moron Keating to 'give' anything to the abo's, let alone give anything 'back' to them.

The bloody left together with the greens has absolutely no grasp on politics and running a country. In fact ALL these poly mongrels think it's a popularity contest as to who can give away the most lollies.

The bastards are like pedophiles.

So it is clear Australia was invaded! Not settled! The proof has been on-going from the time the Poms first landed, and we are still being attacked. How stupid can people be if they cannot see the facts/truth.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 1:26:38 PM
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Hi Alt Rave,

Why don't you tell us what you really think ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 4:12:41 PM
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Now hang on folks, we are talking about 18th and 19th Century mentalities. My Grandfather came with the Royal Navy in 1892 and 1894. They returned some island folk on their way to the Queensland cane fields, as slavery was illegal. But they mentioned that there were officers of the government that were in charge of proper treatment of Aborigines. Also they considered most Aborigines as technically well behind Europeans. And they were, but Aborigines were better adapted to Australian conditions than the Europeans were we would find out to our chagrin.

Captain Cook did not invade Australia. His orders were to come to some agreement with any indigenous (inhabited) land owners but Aborigines were still hunter and gatherers and not agriculturalists which meant land ownership as Europeans viewed it, i.e., fencing, wasn't in force. Although Aborigines did have territorial claims between clans for hunting, etc.

The Missions, some religious bodies, treated Aboriginal boys and girls, the Stolen Generation horribly.

Yes, Aborigines have not been treated properly in their world view of events in the past. And now with a greater understanding we judge this by 21st Century mentalities and moral judgements.

But don't blame it on Captain Cook. It was not an invasion, Governor Phillip tried to come to some understanding and reconciliation with the local Aboriginal people,even after he was wounded. He took one back to England, where he died of pneumonia. It was a clash of cultures and the more dominant and coordinated culture eventually won over.

Australia Day, includes all Australians or permanent residents, as far
as we know the British were not the first Europeans to come to
Australia, The Dutch, French, Chinese, and Macasans all made their mark here, but the British won that right of permanent colonisation.
Posted by Bush bunny, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 4:24:43 PM
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I've listened to the bleeding hearts and the softies, and the one thing that seems to be avoided, and that is.

By the abo's own admission they do not own the land, in fact they say, 'no one' owns the land.

So tell me this, why have we 'given' them 'back', 'their' land. To quote a famous actress, 'What a fuckin liberty'.

No one consulted or asked me for my opinion. So why are we 'giving' land to people who clearly don't and never owned it.

These politicians are clearly making big money out of these disgusting decisions, and we just have to sit back and take it.

Oh the time will come and I hope I will be there at the forefront of it all.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 8:06:20 PM
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marksmith, WTF are you on about? I may not be the brightest light in the room, but think you may be off topic. You may wish to locate the topic you seek and re-post accordingly.
Good luck.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 9:50:13 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,

Oh it is always edifying to read the lovely slang and slurs employed by your ilk. Let me have a go and see what you think.

Listen here mate. Why on earth do you think that as some clueless second generation immigrant you get to sling off at anybody. You lot are a real pain in the arse. Yours was the highest demographic who voted No in the vote on same sex marriage when the majority of real Australians did the fair bloody thing and voted Yes. Not because they had a dog in the fight but because they knew, as fair dinkum Aussies, it was the right thing to do.

As a pissant newcomer you should learn some bloody manners and put a sock in it. I am fifth and sixth generation Australian and absolutely sick of new arrivals like your family educating their kids not to know their place.

And what the hell was this? "No one consulted or asked me for my opinion." Why? Because it just doesn't count mate. You have a hell of a long way to go before you have anything worth contributing so how about putting a sock in it and leaving it to the true blue Aussies. Going and learning some history about this country would be one hell of a good start. Come back when you are a little more educated.

Clown!

There mate, how did I go? Good?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 10:11:42 AM
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