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Celebrate or else : Comments

By Mark Christensen, published 10/1/2018

There is no appeasing the Culture War factions because, at the end of the day, the progressive left and conservative right are marching down the same track.

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Yep, so true. I spose the great challenge of this age is to navigate a path whereby the worlds 200 million english speaking christians have a liveable space to promulgate their admiration and dedication to Jesus of Nazareth, thereby providing a redoubt to the other 2 billion christians in the world who are facing levels of persecution not experienced since the time of the apostles.
Posted by progressive pat, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:42:40 AM
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It most certainly is not for all Australians (Turnbull gets battier every day); it is not even for most homosexual Australians (about 43,000?), few of whom will feel the need to 'marry' even though it is now legal. There will be a short term media frenzy as a few peculiar people tie the knot, then it will fizzle out. Like Mark Christensen, we NO voters will not suddenly change our minds on the absurdity of fake marriage between people of the same sex and start singing 'How Sweet It Is'. Enacting perversion into law doesn't make the perversion right of popular.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:55:42 AM
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Great idea but can't happen. Malcolm doesn't care about our society or our economy or our environment or anything other than Malcolm staying in the top job. Similar for Bill. So they both go along with climate crazies and happily stuff our economy whilst people are dying in megafires and forests are dying and turning to scrub because frequent mild burning, i.e. sustainable land management, is illegal. The convergence of left and right is driven by dominance of media and academia by watermelons, and disproportionate influence of inner city electorates on political contests. What a bitter irony that Abbott got kicked out because the Green Bee Cee, especially Leigh Sales, pandered to Malcolm's vanity, used him and dumped him. How dumb are the lefty greeny 'liberals' and what choice have we got anymore? Joh-Bjelke's 'gerrymander'was fairdinkum democracy, and Queensland was great.
Posted by Little, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:28:30 PM
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This author highlights the need for truck-loads more Muslims in this country, in order to balance up the act a bit.
I propose a bridge linking Australia to Indonesia, and a joint citizenship arrangement between the two.
Not only do Indonesians make a mockery of Australia, and our love affair with homosexuality, by example. They also riot against excessive Chinese dominance and meddling. Something unthinkable for this weak feminised disgrace of a once sensible country!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:52:45 PM
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On a back highway between Gloucester and Armidale, at the top of the first escarpment, in the back of nowhere-land, is a small unofficial roadside park, built without permission, in the good old Australian tradition, with a long bench hastily formed from a fallen tree.

Humorist road-workers named this park to suit its location: “Wherethefuckarewe”, and hung a sign of designation, high in a roadside tree to mark the spot!

In my mind, this location epitomises the lost state of this once beautiful country, and its abandoned traditions. If you listen carefully while straddling the uncomfortable bench, the cries of pain from those Australians gone before us are almost audible, and mix in a cacophony of the natural sounds of nature, with the deep vibrations from our Australian ancestors, as they roll over in their graves
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 1:19:50 PM
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These related essays provide a unique perspective on the issues featured in this essay. They point to and describe the only real solution to the now everywhere culture of complaint and frustration being dramatized all over the world by the masses of fragmented deeply frustrated human beings.

http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/coopdemo.html note the first sentence in this essay
http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/socrevip.html
http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/disccomm.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 1:40:06 PM
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Today the first legally married, SS couples are off to celebrate their legal union, And all the civil rights they were denied by the resident homophobes! And now for sure and for certain, self identifying by agreeing with this risible rubbish/rhetorical rant!

These people will never change their spots, because like all brainwashed from birth, cult members, they're no longer capable of independent critical thinking or even looking at the evidence that not only proves them wrong, but proves they're willfully blind.

The people were asked for their view and responded. In enough numbers to be a landslide, even though voluntary!

Something the resident homophobes never ever contemplated.

If you don't like baking cakes or whatever for SS couples, just put a sign in your window that says so! No problemo! Ditto any church or religious denomination.

[e.g. we prefer to cater to traditional marriage and are consequently, regularly overbooked.]

I remember a time when mixed race unions were equally scorned and watched as one priest married a couple with a toneless torrent of words. That saw the couple leave the church, heads bowed and crying tears of absolute mortification.

Those days are in our past as is any level of acceptable homophobia!

Get over it and get a life that's not concerned with what happens in private citizens bedrooms!

IT DOESN'T CONCERN YOU! AND NEVER EVER DID!

The next election will underline that fact! Tony, Cory, Andrew.

As an interesting aside, that holier than thou Priest was later defrocked for betraying a confidence?

A case of do what I say, not what I do, perhaps?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 10 January 2018 2:50:53 PM
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The ABC continues to “ double-speak” the bad news which invariable comes with homosexuals.

A transvestite found with his head beaten in, and lying on the side of a suburban Tasmanian street, is described in their on line news post, as a male victim, with manicured eyebrows.

With everything not nailed down privatised in this country, how can the ABC sustain any reason to be funded by taxpayers, and not follow the same path
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 4:20:00 PM
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ABC. So they're responsible for ensuring freedom of speech so hated by the resident homophobes and control freaks, remains a freedom!

Heard in today's news broadcast of the so sad story of a fourteen year old (Stanthorpe?) female who had just hung herself. And as an act of final despairing desperation? Having been regularly bullied by Cyber bullies, too cowardly to put their name on their tweets?

Puberty is already a difficult enough time without people being made to feel depraved, because of normal for them, SS sexual attraction?

The lowlives surely responsible for this and all other similar tragedies, ought to be shown the door and invited to migrate to a Muslim country or some such, where their irresponsible and heartless code of conduct is officially sanctioned! Da?

We just don't need folks unable to accept normal difference as normal and would be less divided against ourselves! If they would just get up and get gone, along with their MINORITY, stone age views!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 10 January 2018 5:10:27 PM
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Alan B

Calm down man. All your exclamation marks, capitalisation and screeching about homophobes could lead to a burst blood vessel or a nervous breakdown.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 7:00:29 PM
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Can understand the frustration of king Canute. Can't change nature by decree. Still that's what they ask for.

Agree the anti discrimination laws must go. The wedding cake's the perfect example of why. State takeover of the mind and body. Takeover of property too requiring the private enterprise to supply a good or service on demand.
Orwell tried to warn us. Tried to describe what it looked like but here we are.
Posted by jamo, Thursday, 11 January 2018 12:18:55 AM
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Diver Dan seems to know more than the police regarding the vicious assault in Launceston, Tasmania. Nowhere has it been reported the victim was either a homosexual man or a transvestite.

The injuries he suffered were so severe that he couldn't talk. " It took nearly a day for police to confirm his identity, but only his age and suburb have since been released publicly." (Source: The Examiner).

Letting one's homophobic prejudices get in the way of facts seems to be typical.
Posted by minotaur, Thursday, 11 January 2018 6:51:33 AM
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minotaur:

Not so. Initially the on line ABC news site, headlined the incident in exactly that way.
I quoted above, word for word!

Later in the day, the original event was replaced with an updated version, which removed the obvious slant I described.

Maybe they read OLO.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 11 January 2018 11:03:31 AM
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The postal ballot was won following a campaign of lies about inequality, and nonsense about non-existent perverts marriage. Marriage isbetween a man and a woman. There has been strict avoidance of naming pervert’s relationship, as their campaign is devoted to destruction of marriage.
We do not know what dirty tricks were employed by the perverts to obtain the result, but it will eventually surface, and the long road back will continue
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 11 January 2018 3:53:10 PM
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You are full of it Diver Dan. You clearly made the jump from 'manicured eyebrows' to the victim being homosexual. You want to to know why the description mentioned his eyebrows...it was because that was the only feature left on his face that could be described!
Posted by minotaur, Friday, 12 January 2018 7:36:24 AM
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And the Leo Lane comedy show rolls on. By the way LL...the law now states that marriage can be between people of the same sex. Your bleating won't change that. Loser.
Posted by minotaur, Friday, 12 January 2018 7:38:05 AM
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You are premature, bullhead, in proclaiming a loser.
As Mark says:” changing the law is not the end of this – it's the beginning.”
The perverts will not get away with this.
Social change is not a linear progression, it proceeds in cycles. The perverts have reached the top of a cycle, and will now head the other way, back to where they started, as criminals whose crime attracted a death penalty.
Still think you are a Winner, bullhead?
Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 12 January 2018 9:13:29 PM
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Those who are not full of homophobic hate are always the winners.
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 15 January 2018 6:44:08 AM
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"Homophobic hate", "anti-immigrant", "racist", "racialist", "anti this/that/or the other" - categorised as "othering" whereby whatever another thinks, or expresses in writing, speech and actions can and will be taken as a form of discrimination. It is the reincarnated modern day version of the Malleus Maleficarum and God help anyone brave enough to call out Gays, Women, Non reflective folks, Muslims, Jews or Left Handed Tri-sexual Aboriginal Harp Seals seeking land rights.

When Australia under Whitlam embraced the zeitgeist of "multiculturalism" (not to be confused with immigration policies resulting from White Australia Policy and the refugee situation post WW2) we embraced or signed up to the New World Order, the PNAC and forever changed Australia as we knew it. We likewise gave away our sovereignty and any chance of having control over minorities getting their way.

Yes according to the ABS the recent SSM parasite...sorry plebiscite was carried with a resounding majority, but wait did anyone actually think as to when the ramifications of this decision ends & where this will all end up ?

Yet a few people, given the warnings of history, will see where this ends. It begins though with the erosion of the family unit, through the enacting of laws such as lowering of the age of homosexual consent whereby a person who is not able to vote at an election, not able to legally purchase cigarettes, or do many other things in society, is now given by stroke of legislative pen the 'legal right' to consent to let other people do as they want with their body.

It is frightening to read about the organisation called PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange). Wiki cites it disbanded in 1984. Since then has morphed into multiple, less 'visible' networks today. Within it are many influential politicians, celebrities, eminent psychologists, lawyers, academics and so called pillars of societies world wide, all calling for the relaxation of the laws involving children & sexual interactions with adults. A sickening read in anyones language. Their heritage though goes back and allies itself closely with Councils for Civil Liberties, Gay Rights, Queer Activism and more.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:11:04 AM
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Do you have some basis for your assertion that vindictive heterophobes are winners, bullhead, or is it another of your baseless slogans of the desperate?A slogan you use when, as usual, you have nothing sensible to say. Your lack of education keeps you in that state.
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:31:45 AM
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Leo Lane, as I've never referred to 'heterophobes' then no, I don't. However, let's look at some facts. The result of the same sex marriage vote was overwhelmingly in favour with a national 'yes' vote of 7.8 million against a 'no' vote of 4.9 million. That is 61.6% against 38.4%. A result that was unprecedented. Breaking that down to electorates, of the 150 electorates the 'yes' vote was carried easily in 133 of them.

The 'yes' vote was done a majority of heterosexual people. How do you explain that one LL? Make your reply simple as my poor education means I won't be able to comprehend anything complex.
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 15 January 2018 3:06:12 PM
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