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The Australian's War for God : Comments

By Ian Keese, published 13/12/2017

Their underlying argument is that a decline in belief in God is leading to a breakdown in society, and those responsible for this breakdown are The Australian's usual culprits: the 'Elites'.

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What's disappearing is belief in organised religion, its alleged moral authority the size of the Sunday plate offering!

Moreover our charity dollar seems to be going more and more to administration costs than the intended recipients?

Christianity was marked by the golden rule applicable to most religions and cultures, as such had tolerance at its very core.

That tolerance eroded by folks with an obsessive fundamental or fanatical view of God, limited ability to understand.

We all of us, just part of the unified field of energy that's absolutely everything. That everything is energy. Energy that can neither be created nor destroyed, just transformed.

Tolerance, original teachings of it have been massively revised, reviewed, reworked, rejected and edited, until the original teachings, what the master actually said; in plain, common, simple language! Has been turned on its head, thoroughly homogenised with pagan belief/ritual! With some of it set in stone!

Thus we arrive at a time and place where proponents, who by and large serve mannon or evil? See themselves only as individuals/that individualism/aspiration/greed's good.

Even though the Christian message says the very opposite, that one cannot serve both mannon and God! Ditto Buddhism.

Taken literally says, be satisfied with enough of everything, take only what you need, leaving some for others. Ingrained in earliest cultures, as standard practice/conservation!

That those with much, have much responsibility, those with the most, have the most responsibility.

Was those days of progressive conservatism, when the only insurance you needed, was the literal knowledge, when push came to shove?

Neighbours would man up and pitch in, as occurs in many small rural communities today!

A good neighbour is worth more than money in the bank! Quote unquote

Nowadays, it's where can we divide and rule, the city against the bush etc; and six degrees of difference.

Rather than what is it that we have in common that unites us in common cause, against the rest of the world/animal savagery!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 13 December 2017 8:19:19 AM
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Oh, pish! Get a hobby. From a country that kept religion out of most discussions - because we thought it was private - we are now regularly battered with God/No God tirades by people who don't know anymore about the existence (or otherwise) of God than we do. This has occurred since mass immigration and multiculturalism, which should never have happened and, if it hadn't, we would not have to put up with the self-doubt being blubbered on about.

Thanks to mass immigration and multiculturalism, we are stuffed whether or not we believe in God.

I note that the Uniting Church gets a mention here. If you are caught up in the Uniting Church, you are the next best thing to an atheist because your organisation has become just the same as the rest of society.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 8:29:31 AM
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Paul was a scholar who had his conversion, he claims, on the road to Damascus?

And he brought with his alleged new convictions, all the standard cultural norms of his day and era! And he spoke with his own voice not God's! Thus women continued to be subjected to, goods and chattels basis or mere bagatelle? And that homosexuality be stoned/driven underground or into the priesthood? To be controlled by celibacy?

This then is the reason there is an alleged war most Aussies don't want a bar of!

Given nothing can or will be gained by it, just self destruction. As we saw in Ireland during the troubles or in the centuries long blood soaked divide between Sunnis and Shiites, over the asserted alleged musings, of a Child raping paedophile? [As was virtually every man of that barbaric era!?]

Even so, most of what the latter is credited with? Reflected in earlier subjectively selected, Judaeo/Christian teachings, he seems to have agreed with?

And flavoured by the Christian crusades, barbarism and cultural norms of the day?

Even as a personally entirely illiterate man, who could neither read or write? Along with around 99% of the goat and camel herding population? Needed scribes to "accurately write/record, what he's alleged to have taught?

We don't need a war! Just fundamentalists and fanatics understanding, that they do not know the mind of God! Nor speak for him nor allege what is written ever actually came from him, be it the alleged ten commandments? Allegedly carved in stone and given to a man called Moses on an alleged exodus, from Egypt and slavery?

That as we are now finding out? May never have occurred? All while emerging evidence/factual record, is simply avoided by burying the head in alleged, Paul said, Justin said, Holy Mary, Mother of God said, the gospel according to Mary Magdalene, scripture!?

I'm almost certain God created Holy Mary, via her genetic lineage, not visa versa!

Thus sayth the Lord.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 13 December 2017 9:19:22 AM
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Cool article, sir.
I suppose what everyone can agree on is that there needs to be amazing secular nations, but that English-speaking Christian nations also have a right to exist.
Posted by progressive pat, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 9:42:12 AM
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Certainly priests, monks and other church-mens' unusually high level* of paedophilia has led to a religious and wider breakdown in society.

Religion backed paedophilia so frequent, so protected and covered up that the secular Federal Government had to launch a Royal Commission, to clean up these animals of Churches and some notorious High Church Bosses.

* see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission_into_Institutional_Responses_to_Child_Sexual_Abuse#Submissions

"The Commission detailed the number of abuse claims against 10 religious orders from 1950 to 2010; four orders had allegations of abuse against more than 20% of their members.[2]

Percentage of church figures behind alleged abuse, 1950-2010

Religious institution......Percentage

St John of God Brothers... 40.4
Christian Brothers........ 22
Salesians of Don Bosco.... 21.9
Marist Brothers........... 20.4
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 11:02:27 AM
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What we really need is freedom from religion not more of it
Posted by John Ryan, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 11:06:14 AM
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