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United Nations loses the plot in ignoring Israel-Jordan reality : Comments

By David Singer, published 4/12/2017

November 29, 2017 marked the 70th anniversary of the United Nations General Assembly Resolution calling for the creation in Western Palestine of independent Arab and Jewish states.

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Hey David,

"I challenge you to point out one occasion where I have said Arabs should be moved to Jordan"

I'm not sure you've ever actually said it, but it seems as though you're constantly implying it.
You want the 1922 borders for the Mandate for Palestine, with Israel taking the 23% right?
And Jordon as the place for the Palestinians right?
And that you want West Bank and Gaza incorporated into Jordan is that right?
That to me implies (based on the 1922 maps) that you want Israel free of the current Palestinian inhabitants.
Does it not?

If I've misunderstand you than feel free to correct me...
In fact, until you expressly say otherwise I want you to know that this is what I believe that you are suggesting.
Which is why you get the criticism from me that you do.

So tell us all them what is your precise plan for the existing Palestinian inhabitants, given you support 1922 borders and the West Bank and Gaza incorporated into Jordan?
If you do not expressly say otherwise, then I have no way of knowing you MEAN OTHERWISE.

Oh and BTW, you're trying to goad me into saying 'Yes' to your hypothectical question of decades ago.
To what end exactly?

My answer is 'NO', based on the fact I don't think Israel would've allowed it to happen.
If you want my 'extention of my true beliefs' then I'd have to say 'I don't know'.
If you want to assert something, go ahead and assert it yourself.
[Cont.]
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:37:09 PM
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[Cont.]

"Ad hominem attacks on myself destroys your credit or reputation"

You're only getting fair comment and criticism based upon the articles and viewpoints you publish in a public forum.
You're the one who makes accusations against others, frequently trying to bully or silence commenters when they express their opinions.
You've done it on this thread and have done it many times before.
You frequently attack commenters who post anonymously, and have in the past said you'd like to prosecute members of this forum including myself.
You've also demanded members of this forums identities, implying a willingness to further attack members of this forum for their lawful opinions.
Opinions which reflect 'true belief' are protected in this country, so your attacks and accusations are often baseless.
Why would you automatically assume that a comment is 'Hate Speech' rather than 'An extension of one's true beliefs'?
Given that you're a lawyer and should know the law, how else would your actions be seen as other than malicious?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:42:19 PM
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# David . Voted a big "yes", multiple entries , suspended during class-action by electorate of inner West ( Latter Day) non-Roman Semi-Jordan Ragheads.
# Emperor Julian. Ticked all boxes, added extra "No". Electoral rabbi decision pending.
# NNN . No name ,spoiled paper ( inability to form an X ).
# Toni Lavis. Correct answer first time, group hug from #David, assisting # Geoff of Perth with preferences , statistical distribution curve and Dead Sea Scrolls.
# Armchair Critic. Still writing after full-time, ambiguous script and disqualified for arguing the point , whatever it was.
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Totals
Lord Balfour : 12.67
Khaled Hosseini : 4
2 kg flour (self raising)
Trump 31% and falling
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 8:34:10 PM
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David, given this recent evidence cited below, it makes it even more irrelevant to provide just a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer.

"A senior archaeologist at Tel Aviv University has cast doubt on the alleged Jewish heritage of Jerusalem. Israel Finkelstein’s claims have been made in the face of official Israeli and biblical claims to the occupied city.

Professor Finkelstein, who is known as “the father of biblical archaeology”, told the Jerusalem Post that Jewish archaeologists have found no historical or archaeological evidence to back the biblical narrative on the Exodus, the Jews’ wandering in Sinai or Joshua’s conquest of Canaan. On the alleged Temple of Solomon, Finkelstein said that there is no archaeological evidence to prove it really existed.

According to Finkelstein’s university colleague, archaeology lecturer Rafi Greenberg, Israel is supposed to find something if it digs for a period of six weeks. But, Greenberg told the Jerusalem Post, Israelis have been excavating the so-called City of David in the occupied Jerusalem neighbourhood of Silwan for two years to no avail.

Professor Yoni Mizrahi, an independent archaeologist who has worked with the International Atomic Energy Agency, agreed with Israel Finkelstein. He said that the right-wing Elad Association has not found anything “saying welcome to David’s palace” although that was taken for granted by Elad, as if the group depended on scriptural texts to guide them in their work."

Interesting eh?
Cheers
Geoff
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 7 December 2017 3:38:30 AM
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#Emperor, #nick,#Armchair, #Geoff

Now that:
1. you #Geoff have posted your 231 word response,
2. you #Emperor your 156 word and 71 word responses,
3. you #nick your 12 word response in German (do you have a German background or worse perhaps a Nazi "Sieg Heil" background?) and
4. you #Armchair your 297 word response

- could you all please have one more try to answer just "YES" or "NO" to this question which I am putting to you all for a third time:

"Do you agree that the second state the Arabs want to establish in former Palestine in 2017 - in addition to Jordan - occupying 100% of the West Bank and Gaza with Jerusalem as its capital (and not one square metre less) - could have been created at any time between 1948 and 1967 after all the Jews had been kicked out of these places by six invading Arab armies in 1948?"

Answer just "YES" or "NO" please.

12.5 million Australians had no trouble answering "YES" or "NO" to the question asked in the same sex marriage survey (which I am assuming included you four - sorry if I am wrong in this assumption because you did not vote or posted an informal verbose vote).

Come on guys and/or gals and/or indeterminates - try and answer my above question with a simple "YES" or "NO"

#Toni - glad you find this exchange entertaining. Come on Antonio lead the way and show them you are no cretin by answering "YES" or "NO" to the following question:

"Do you agree that the second state the Arabs want to establish in former Palestine in 2017 - in addition to Jordan - occupying 100% of the West Bank and Gaza with Jerusalem as its capital (and not one square metre less) - could have been created at any time between 1948 and 1967 after all the Jews had been kicked out of these places by six invading Arab armies in 1948?"
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 7 December 2017 5:57:44 AM
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I don't understand the question . If you don't tell me where the answer is then take it back to 1917 , that was fun and everyone was on the same page.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 7 December 2017 6:16:52 AM
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