Useful interpretation for the lay person, attributed to Sascha Callaghan, .."a lecturer in health law and bioethics at the Sydney Law School".

"..a fetus is not a legal person with rights of its own, until it is born. This is not to say that the law to does not protect fetuses at all. Abortion is still a criminal offence in NSW and it is also grievous bodily harm to destroy the fetus of a pregnant woman, whether or not the woman herself is injured – an offence punishable with imprisonment for up to 20 years. Children can also sue people who have caused them injury in the womb after they are born.

However it does mean that while a fetus is still in the belly of its mother, the mother's right to make decisions about her own body will prevail."

and,

"While the needs of fetuses and their mothers usually coincide, it is not uncommon for conflicts arise, such as the mother bring diagnosed with a life-threatening condition, the treatments for which are likely to hurt or even kill her fetus. As the law stands we are permitted to decide to save ourselves, with all the bitterness that might entail, and doctors who act to save a woman in an emergency need not concern themselves with fear of prosecution if she happens to be pregnant."

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/when-a-mothers-rights-clash-with-the-needs-of-her-unborn-child-20150407-1mfzrp.html

I don't know how anyone can compare a pregnancy to donating a kidney. One is a totally natural event that the female body was specifically designed to do and the other isn't.
Pregnancy is not an illness or a disability, it's a natural consequence of sex and is what has kept the human race in existence. For a woman to choose destroying a life over some minor inconveniences for a few months says a lot about the woman.
The vast majority of women who have born a child will tell you that from the moment they knew they were pregnant, they considered that foetus as an individual life. Women talk to their unborn babies, they stroke them, play music to them, they name them. Many men are involved in this as well.
Apart from medical reasons, or cases of incest or rape, no woman has the right to destroy a life, especially without the consent of the father, who gets loaded with responsibility the second the child is born but has no rights prior to that.
Using abortion as a form of birth control in an age when there is a multitude of different types of contraception easily available is unconscionable.

It's really quite simple, Big Nana.

<<I don't know how anyone can compare a pregnancy to donating a kidney.>>

To highlight the fact that no-one has the right to use someone else’s body for their survival. The fact that one is natural and one is not is irrelevant.

<<For a woman to choose destroying a life over some minor inconveniences for a few months says a lot about the woman.>>

I'm pleased to hear that your pregnancies consisted only of minor inconveniences. Each woman's circumstances are going to be different. Either way, no woman should be expected to be an incubator.

<<The vast majority of women who have born a child will tell you that from the moment they knew they were pregnant, they considered that foetus as an individual life.>>

Whether it is an individual life must be a secondary concern to the woman's bodily autonomy.

<<Apart from medical reasons, or cases of incest or rape, no woman has the right to destroy a life …>>

No-one has the right to use someone else's body to sustain themselves either. So, why do foetuses have more rights than people who have been born?

<<Using abortion as a form of birth control in an age when there is a multitude of different types of contraception easily available is unconscionable.>>

Indeed it would be. Luckily, such cases would be virtually non-existent. The idea that there are women out there replacing something as simple and as cheap as birth control with an expensive and life-disrupting medical procedure on a regular basis is absurd.

AJ, you don't know much about what goes on in our hospitals do you? They have special days each week for theatres just to do abortions, endless abortions on woman who didn't use that cheap contraception that is so easily available here.
I know women who have had three or more abortions, just because they couldn't be bothered with contraception.
To say this doesn't happen is a denial of reality.

Toni Lavis. No I'm not Morman. Not that it matters. The simularities between drinking and sex are worth the comparison. Drinking is enjoyable, having sex is enjoyable. People get stupid when drinking, people having sex changes the relationship and adds hardships with strings to muddle through.

From these reasons there's merit to if you drink don't get drunk; as well as to not have sex until your married in a committed relationship. Moving on to addictions of sex, very comparable to being an alcoholic. Moving to the harm done while drunk, crimes linked to drinking, and families broken from adultry. They both show that when done outside the scope of what's mature and resonable both sex and drinking are wrong. Drunk driving and killing a person is very compatible to having sex and then killing your baby.

.... Since you're making a habit to quote out of context, I want you to read it all again. Let it sink in. I'm not against sex. I'm against sex out of marriage. I'm not against drinking, but there is a limit, and there is safety concerns after drinking. I'm against abortion, specifically because it could be avoided to kill by not having sex. In the same way I'm against drinking and driving. Because of the harm it's done to those I love.

And finally yes people who have sex out of marriage are very close to whores and prostutes just like a person who drinks all the time is an alcoholic. It is a cultural sickness though that is also plagued on an indivual level. Not a mental illness, but a sickness none the less. If we can not control ourselves to resist having sex, that is no excuse to kill the next generation before they are born. If you have sex outside of marriage and get pregnet, so be it. Have the child. One wrong is not made right by commited a worse offense. Abortion does not make sex out of marriage ok. It make it worse by killing of the child.

AJ Philips,

[According to your logic, apparently, foetuses have more rights than people who have already been born.]

All people have the right to be alive, (unless criminal charges and laws intervene). The rights of a women to live are the same as the child growing in her. If you truely wanted to have equal rights for an unborn child, you would be able to recoginize this fundamental liberty. In fact in most medical emergencies your right to live is combined with the assumption that you would want to stay alive. Those in an altered mental state, are unconscience, or are children who can't talk yet are all under the medical assumption that they would want to be given life saving care if they were in danger.

The only reason to not give this right to a fetus, is because the medical name had confused people to think the term changes things. Baby. It's called a baby. Ask anyone who's had a miscarriage. They don't cry because of the loss of a fetus. They cry because they lost their child. Having a medical name for the stage the child is in while in the womb changes absolutely NOTHING. Hiding behind redefined words, and changing the meaning to fit your argument are word game arguments. Don't repeat these arguments. It's a conman argument that, unfortunately in the discussion of abortion, has become believed as valid.

If you want to talk about which rights are more valid, and worth more to uphold. I'm fine with that. In my opinion the right to live is stronger then all other rights. If one person being alive inconviences someone else or hampers their other privileges and rights, the first person's right to be alive trumps their other rights. I'm not arguing a forced organ donation. I'm saying that you can't kill for the sake of convience. Tell me a right that is worth more then being alive and why that should trump a child's rights (all of them) before they are given the chance to be born. Go ahead. Make your speach.