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Princess Diana's death - the social impact : Comments
By Mal Fletcher, published 1/9/2017Twenty years ago today, Britain and the world lost one of the seminal figures - at least in terms of public affection - of the millennial era.
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Posted by Alan B., Friday, 1 September 2017 11:14:45 AM
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"royalty". royal, from Latin regalis from rex "king," from PIE root *reg- "move in a straight line," "to direct in a straight line," thus "to lead, rule."
Somebody has to - "On Tuesday 8 August 2017, , the Governor-General, General the Honourable Sir Peter Cosgrove hosted a reception for Association of South East Asian Nation’s (ASEAN) 50th Anniversary. Earlier, the Governor-General met with students from Taree Christian Community School, NSW, as they undertook a tour of Government House, . On Wednesday 16 August 2017, at Macgregor Primary School, Canberra, the Governor-General, , met with the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Oriental Republic of Uruguay, Professor José Carlos Mahia, In the afternoon, .. hosted an afternoon tea for the Northern Mallee and Loddon Murray Community Leadership Groups. Earlier, the Governor-General met with students from Bolwarra Public School, NSW; Penshurst West Public School, NSW; Nichols Point Primary School, VIC; and Mungindi Central School, NSW, as they undertook a tour of Government House as part of their visit to Canberra. Later, the Governor-General was represented at the departure from Canberra of the President of the Republic of Croatia, .. by the Acting Official Secretary to the Governor-General, ." Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 1 September 2017 1:06:40 PM
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I still remember the young princes walking behind
the car that carried their mother's coffin. It's something that has stayed with me all these years. Princess Diana made a huge impact on the people she met, especially the most vulnerable. She did not wear gloves when shaking the hands of people. She sat on hospital beds, she talked to people eye to eye and face to face, hugging and touching them. She shook hands with aids victims, with lepers, The elderly. And the people reacted to her. She made sure that her children knew that they were loved. That is why even today, twenty years later - people still remember her with love, and miss her greatly. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 1 September 2017 1:36:11 PM
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I served at the function in Sydney for Princess Di exactly a year before she died. Usually with celebrities you are surprised at how short/small they are in person. Princess Di wasn't. Her charisma flooded the room. Terribly sad how she died.
Posted by HereNow, Friday, 1 September 2017 4:30:57 PM
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Alan,
"She died because there was a drunk at the wheel and they didn't have seat belts! And because of a gutter trash paparazzi, who just couldn't get enough royal exposure pics and man made scandal, for the their scandal rags!" True enough, but they also died because there was no crash rail along the pillars in the tunnel, and so what would have been some lucrative work for a panel beater became, for many, a tragedy. Foxy, She was an ordinary woman well out of her depth and she is remembered and venerated by the media because there is money in it. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 2 September 2017 11:43:26 AM
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HRH did good work for sick people . For several hours. Nurses do that sort of stuff at a lesser income level.
"As part of the divorce in July 1996, Diana reportedly received a lump sum of £17.5 million and an allowance for her private office". Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 2 September 2017 6:04:55 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
No. Princess Diana was not an ordinary woman by any stretch of the imagination. She was the first wife of the Prince of Wales and mother of royalty. She came from the Spencer family, one of Britain's pre-eminent aristocratic families whose family members have been made knights, baronets, and peers. Her father was Viscount Althorp. As for being out of her depth? Hardly. A woman who was "out of her depth" as you put it, would not have achieved what Princess Diana did in both reaching out to people and raising funds in the millions for the charities and organisations that she supported. She also raised awareness for so many causes - including mental illness, aids, land-mines, the plight of lepers, and so on. A woman out of her depth would not have had the effect that she did on the people of England or globally which was shown by the reaction of people to her death. Everyone felt the loss worldwide. And today 20 years after her death - it still resonates with most people. As for the media? Yes they are making money out of it all. They always have. However, if she was just an "ordinary woman out of her depth," as you claim I doubt if the media would give her the time of day. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 2 September 2017 7:42:19 PM
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Foxy,
"She did not shine academically, failing her O-levels twice. Her outstanding community spirit was recognised with an award from West Heath.[21] She left West Heath when she was sixteen.[22] Her brother Charles recalls her as being quite shy up until that time.[23] She showed a talent for music as an accomplished pianist.[21] Diana also excelled in swimming and diving, and studied ballet and tap dance.[24] After attending Institut Alpin Videmanette (a finishing school in Rougemont, Switzerland) for one term in 1978, Diana returned to London, where she shared her mother's flat with two school friends.[25] In London, she took an advanced cooking course, but seldom cooked for her roommates. She took a series of low-paying jobs; she worked as a dance instructor for youth until a skiing accident caused her to miss three months of work.[26] She then found employment as a playgroup pre-school assistant, did some cleaning work for her sister Sarah and several of her friends, and acted as a hostess at parties. Diana spent time working as a nanny for the Robertsons, an American family living in London,[27] and worked as a nursery teacher's assistant at the Young England School in Pimlico.[28] " From Wikipedia. That is someone quite ordinary the later charity work was probably orchestrated although she had shewn an interest in such previously (see quote above). As far as family goes I have some 50 Kings in the family tree, including 15 kings of England and 6 of Scotland, Brian Boru, High King of Ireland and Lords, Dukes, Earls and down the line. I have a Scots title (that I don't use). I am distantly related to the Queen (very, very distant!!) but I'm just an ordinary bloke, noble forebears mean nothing more than an interesting family history and a bit of privilege, if one plays on it, when in the UK. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 2 September 2017 8:36:55 PM
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Medieval Ireland had 150 kings at the same time , Tudor/Yorkists and Jacobites had 2 and George I had 50 further up the tree than himself. Queen Victoria had 1130 descendants . When Oz gets an Australian monarch then Is Mise could find 5.5 million royal contenders battling for the Crown.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 3 September 2017 8:27:11 AM
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Yes, Is Mise for President of the republic. And an acknowledgement, that my DNA apparently connects me to both Robert the Bruce and George 1.
I apparently share a rare genetically transferred skin disorder? I hope it doesn't also include a reported mental disorder? That said, let's not stray too far off topic and what a tragedy, the untimely premature death of Princess Diana was! And as square peg thrust in a round hole, she stood out among the "royals" as a class act and a fair dinkum caring human being! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 3 September 2017 3:58:13 PM
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I blame his mother. When HM returned from her conquest of Australia without Charles she met him aged 5. She shook hands with the little man. He probably saluted .
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 3 September 2017 5:47:12 PM
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If an aristocrat falls in a forest and there is nobody there to hear it, does anybody care?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 3 September 2017 8:41:07 PM
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Toni,
"If an aristocrat falls in a forest and there is nobody there to hear it, does anybody care?" Kith and kin, insurance company for starters! Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 3 September 2017 8:56:44 PM
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Medicare covers pathology tests for amount of blue blood to prove the right to rule:
Activated Partial Thromboplastin time (APTT) Light Blue Done Daily. Of course , democracy may require 150 kings for Australia , with travel , palace and horse money. Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 3 September 2017 9:31:17 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
Princess Diana was a unique Royal. She had the capacity to reach people and touch people's lives. She was the "People's Princess," and the entire world cried when she died. This does not happen for ordinary people. You may consider her as ordinary, however there are millions around the globe who would disagree with you, myself included. The following link explains her achievements and how effective she was: http://www.biographyonline.net/people/diana/achievements_princess_diana.html Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 September 2017 10:52:05 AM
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Foxy,
Millions around the world can be wrong, sheer numbers is no guide; the fact that millions celebrated the New Millenium as commencing in 2000 instead of 2001 is proof positive of how easily public opinion can be swayed. Diana was not the brightest candle in the room and had she not married into the limelight was destined to a career in odd jobs and remaining an unknown. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 4 September 2017 12:42:02 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
I'll take the reactions of millions to the Princess of Wales instead of your singular one. What either of us think really does not matter in the great scheme of things. The Princess will go down in the pages of history and will forever be remembered for the compassion she showed to the most vulnerable, for the hard work that she did for all the charities and organisations that she supported and the funds she raised for them, for her work towards having land-mines banned and so much more. It's been 20 years since her death - yet she is not forgotten. Not a bad achievement in itself. What other Royal is remembered so affectionately 20 years after their death - by not only the UK but globally? Posted by Foxy, Monday, 4 September 2017 2:00:01 PM
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//What other Royal is remembered so affectionately 20 years
after their death// Just limited to England? Alfred the Great, Harold Godwinson, William the Conqueror, Richard the Lionheart, Richard III, Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, Charles II, Victoria, amongst others... Proper royals, as opposed to rich tarts that married well. Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 4 September 2017 5:28:42 PM
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As the Princess of Wales title has been done then Camilla won't score that one. Not Queen Consort but Princess Consort will be her role when Charles starts the job in his 70s. " In the year 1929, legislation was passed by the NSW Government of the day to prevent the consorting of criminals, known prostitutes, and persons of ill-repute. . To enforce the provisions of the new legislation, a Consorting Squad was formed within the Criminal Investigating Branch." However, Charles as king will have joint citizenship with Oz so getting her through Customs should be a rubber stamp .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 4 September 2017 8:01:05 PM
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and, from Foxy's part of the world, Vlad the Impaler, who will never be forgotten.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 9:32:39 AM
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Gentlemen,
Methinks you protest too much. And frankly I can't understand why? Princess Diana's death was obviously felt very deeply around the world - not only in her own country. However, that is not something that I am making up. The evidence is there for all to see on film. The news reels speak volumes. This is not a competition of who shall be remembered. The fact that 20 years after her death people are still voicing the loss speaks for itself. And all your denials can't change that fact. BTW: All the people that you've listed as also being remembered from Richard the Lionheart et cetera. They are part of history - however, how many of them so captured the hearts not only of their own people but of many others globally - in the same way that Princess Diana did 20 years after their deaths? Have a nice day. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 10:10:57 AM
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As her brother neatly put it , it's ironic she is named for the huntress who impaled impala. She was pilloried by the press , hounded by her husband and her charity chariot crashed. The nightingale in gilded cage.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 10:18:49 AM
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Princess Diana basically was the first royal anyone
could remember who behaved like a person rather than a distant blue-blood who met people out of obligation rather than affection. Hopefully that mentality did not die with her but will live on in her sons. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 12:34:14 PM
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Royals sit on horses for the Changing of the Guard. Probably when Charles would do it , the PoW would be round the back patting horses and checking their hooves and asking troopers how their Mum is getting along.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 4:27:45 PM
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I wonder if 'nicknamenick' is a reincarnation of that great rambling poster of "...one...word..." posts, 'One under god'?
Long term OLOs will remember him with affection or its opposite!! Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 12:48:52 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
I loved "One Under God," it would be great if he really was back and posting. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 1:27:37 PM
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what?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 2:05:01 PM
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She died because there was a drunk at the wheel and they didn't have seat belts! And because of a gutter trash paparazzi, who just couldn't get enough royal exposure pics and man made scandal, for the their scandal rags!
Thank heavens their advertising revenue is drying up along with the vituperative interest of folks, who don't have a life of their own?
And with that lack of interest, maybe we just might get to focus on real tragedies and by the millions; and issues that matter more to ordinary folk!
That said, she was a lovely lady and a fair dinkum caring empathetic human being, who made the world a better place with her advocacy! And that and that alone was why I loved her!
Would that we could say that of all the royals, acting out various parts in this theatrical absurdity, called of all things, royalty!
Alan B.