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History shows same-sex marriage plebiscite unnecessary and out of step : Comments
By Rebecca Ananian-Welsh and Chris Peppel, published 17/8/2017Our own history calls the necessity of this plebiscite into question, and shows that a postal vote regarding marriage equality signals a new era in Australian plebiscites.
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Posted by Jayb, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:56:07 AM
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Phillips says”
<<“Marriage inequality” is an outright, baseless lie.>> You are yet to demonstrate this” How many more times would I have to demonstrate it before you stop telling this lie, and denying facts? As to the perverts’ intentions on marriage, here’s what a prominent pervert says :”Homosexual activist says gay ‘marriage’ isn’t about equality, it’s about destroying marriage a homosexual activist exposed the hidden agenda behind homosexual “marriage” when she told an audience last year that the movement is not seeking equality but rather a total dismantling of the institution of marriage itself. Masha Gessen, a journalist and author who campaigns for homosexual 'rights', made the comments last May in Australia on a panel at the Sydney Writer’s Festival” https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/homosexual-activist-says-gay-marriage-isnt-about-equality-its-about-destroy Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:18:17 PM
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"Equality" ? Close relatives can't marry, or even have sexual relations. People can't legally marry animals or inanimate objects, no matter how much they love them. Polygamy is not legal. Marriage to under-age children is not legal (somebody should be reminded of that).
All single men and women over a certain age can marry, one partner each, regardless of ethnicity or religion. That's equality. Any two people can shack up and live together for as long as they like, that's quite legal. A very high proportion of relationships in Australia take this more lenient and transient form. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 9:03:42 AM
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Loudmouth: People can't legally marry animals or inanimate objects, no matter how much they love them.
There are people out there that are pushing for just that. Loudmouth: Polygamy is not legal. You better tell that to a certain people in Australia we have let in lately. Loudmouth: Marriage to under-age children is not legal Ditto. Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:11:26 AM
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Leo Lane,
Perhaps some sound reasoning or evidence would help? <<How many more times would I have to demonstrate it before you stop telling this lie, and denying facts?>> So far, however, I have discredited every ridiculous assertion you have offered. Just look at how your 'camel jockey' analogy flopped. <<As to the [gay peoples’] intentions on marriage, here’s what a prominent [gay person] says …>> And what is their evidence of that? How could they possibly be speaking on behalf of every gay person? Or is this another satirical piece your source is foolishly citing? -- Joe, Yes, equality. The points you raise are fallacious appeals to extremes. http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/30/Appeal-to-Extremes <<People can't legally marry animals or inanimate objects, no matter how much they love them.>> So, what? How is that analogous? <<Polygamy is not legal.>> So, what? Perhaps we could fight for that next, if that's what you want. <<Marriage to under-age children is not legal>> Of course not, Children can’t consent. How is this analogous to same-sex marriage? <<All single men and women over a certain age can marry, one partner each, regardless of ethnicity or religion.>> So long as they’re the opposite sex, which is not equality when some are romantically and sexually attracted to the same sex. This argument is asinine. Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:00:10 AM
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Hi AJ,
As an asinine but curious person (just ask anyone), can you spell out for me how 'history shows same-sex marriage' to be in any way, ever, legal ? Tolerated or indulged, certainly, just as sex with goats or chickens may be, but not constituting legal marriage. The Greeks and Romans with their little boys ? Tolerated, probably prevalent amongst the upper classes, but never legal. Aboriginal initiation practices ? Sometimes, but with no thought of it leading to marriage to one of the old blokes. So where's the history ? Says who that a plebsicite is 'out of step' with the voice of the people ? God, really, who cares ? Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:16:21 AM
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Here's a thought. Why don't Butch Lezzo's marry Panzie men & Gay men, men marry Girlie Girls? That would solve the problem right there. ;-)