runner

In relation to oceans you stated …” Now they tell us that the heat is hidden in the ocean.”

How do you explain:

coral bleaching hitting reefs around the planet
“blob” off West Coast US for a couple of years prior to last years El Nino
Chilean fishing industry stuffed in 2017 through Ocean warmth
Marine creatures moving their habitats to areas which had been too cold for their existence
Sea currents warming … e.g. measured off coast of Tasmani

What's to say the planet doesn't have its own cycles,
A thousand years is like a moment in time for the planet.

Maybe it does cool and warm, maybe the cycles change at a set universal time,
like every 50,000 years or something.

I doubt mankind could stop climate change even if if it was happening.

You are in more imminent danger of being killed in the non stop wars across the planet.

The left can't admit that, because of their communistic, ideological ideas of globalism.
which they still can't admit, will cause civil wars in their own countries, so they latch on to something they think they can blame their traditional enemies the capitalists for,
the end of the world by climate change.

No it will be the end of them when they find out, the big tribes they let into Western countries and Europe regard them as the capitalist enemy as well and will kill them along with all the other Europeans. Better to believe in the illusionary idea of global warming.

CHERFUL

Earth does have natural cycles, climate scientists acknowledge those.

Climate science had begun its existence before communists or globalism had developed … Fourier in 1820s, Foote 1850s, Tyndall later 1850s, and Arrenhaus beginning of 20th century.
There was even a short newspaper article in a New Zealand paper that stated coal was harmful at the beginning of the 20th Century (1912).

It is very clear you write from an ideological point of view; there is a close association between fake news and ideology.

The history of climate change science existing long before communism can be verified.
That greenhouse gases can pick up warmth and retain it was known before communism came into effect.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4584444/A-century-old-newspaper-predicted-global-warming-1912.html

There is a photo of a sailor at the bottom of the reference; Sir David Hempleman-Adams, who sailed an aluminium yacht via both routes of the fabled North West passage of the Arctic Ocean last year in one season. He was Knighted for his exploits. Last year the ice was so thin that two ice breakers were able to travel all the way to the North Pole. Yet, we get nonsense from denier sites that the Arctic sea ice is regenerating.

CHERFUL, you argue that we experience natural variation; where does natural variation fit in with the Barnes ice sheet of Baffin Island? It must have missed your comments about 50,000 year cycles; I suppose you mean Milankovitch cycles which are thought to occur every 60,000 years.

ant

How do you explain:

the constant lies that the UN, media and warmist have been speaking about the Great Barrier Reef for the last 50 years. It is actually in very ggod shape.

http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2017/03/divers-say-less-than-5-of-great-barrier-reef-is-dead-not-half-001562671.html

Dear Leo Lane,

How's it going old cock? Been a while.

It appears your “ill bred incivility” (lying, black, racist dunce) is keeping you going.

And you are still bleating on about Carter. From memory I compared his record to Hansen's and you got your frilly knickers in a knot.

You do realise you can't keep coming back until you get the answer you want? But since it has been a while I'm happy for you to lay out the grounds of your complaint and I will attend to them forthwith.

runner

I'm more inclined to believe scientists rather than journalists writing from the US, fake news comes to mind.

Charlie Vernon says things as he sees them, he calls a spade a spade, worth a read.
He is virtually the father of coral science in Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/charlie-veron-the-dire-environmental-prognosis-we-cannot-ignore-20170711-gx8tqr.html