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Trump must honour Bush-Congress deal with Israel : Comments

By David Singer, published 22/5/2017

President Trump's historic visit to Israel on 22 May presents the perfect opportunity for him to deliver on the promises he made to Israel during last year's Presidential election campaign.

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#Anti Colonial

At it again.

At least you don't deny that the Arabs rejected many offers that could have seen an end to the 100 years old conflict between Arabs and Jews. That is some progress.

I doubt your total of 83000 Jews killed or wounded would include those suffering mental health problems and traumatisation as a result of these murders or attempted murders such as family members, friends or even witnesses to these murders or attempted murders.

Take the five members of the Vogel family murdered whilst they were asleep in their beds in 2011. Three children survive. Are you suggesting they, other family members and friends have not been mentally affected as a result of these heinous crimes?

What about the family members and friends of those 67 Jews murdered and another 58 wounded in the 1929 Hebron Massacre?

Or perhaps the family members and friends of the eleven people killed and over 50 wounded in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus in Jerusalem in 2004?.

Or the civilians and children who are given 15 seconds to get to the underground shelters in Sderot or Ashkelon to avoid being possibly killed or injured by thousands of mortars and rockets being fired from Gaza?

What about those who have been witnesses to brutal stabbings, car ramming incidents, targeted drive by shootings and the hospital medical staff that have to deal with these murderous attacks?

Wounding is not restricted to visible physical wounds only.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 28 May 2017 9:57:17 AM
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#Anti Colonial

The B'tselem Report quoted at length by you is irrelevant since it does not deal with the following claim I made in relation to voting by 95% of the Arabs living in Areas "A" and B" of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank):
"95% of the Arabs living in Judea and Samaria (West Bank) live in Areas A and B under the total administrative control of the PLO. 100% of the Arabs living in Gaza are under the total administrative control of Hamas. Access to vote in either area is where they live and does not necessitate them having to go through any armed checkpoints."

Not sure why you tried to buy in to a discussion I was having with #Emperor Julian anyway. It certainly doesn't help justify or support his inane comment:
"Unlike in Bantustans like occupied Palestine in which access to polling is through armed checkpoints set up by an enemy state run by an ethnic minority masquerading as God's chosen."

Perhaps you were motivated to jump to Emperor Julian's aid because I guess that you - like Emperor - are more than happy to demonize, apply double standards and delegitimise Israel at every opportunity

Your use of the term "fascist Zionism" gives you away and matches #Emperor Julian"s use of the choice term "Israeli race supremacists".

Natan Sharansky calls this "the 3D Test of Anti-Semitism: Demonization, Double Standards, Delegitimization"
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04.htm

I call it "Jew-hatred."

Two Jew haters acting in concert - what a pathetic and disgusting sight to behold.

No wonder you hide behind anonymous identities. Haven't got the guts to make your racist Jew-hating views known to your family, friends, neighbours and business associates.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 28 May 2017 10:23:35 AM
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Just for curiosity, a question to OLO's resident uber-racist who boldly claims Israel is democratic and not founded on racial supremacism, what proportion of those occupying key government posts - Cabinet Ministers, Generals etc -in racist Israel are goyim? How often has a goy been prime Minister? It bears on the claim that the state of Israel is not race-supremacist like the Boer Union of South Africa and thereby has a right to exist which has been rightly denied the Boer dictatorship.

As for the resident racist's sneers about lack of Palestinian elections, read the actual facts at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/26/comment.mainsection

The key to democracy in Palestine lies in the USA. The current hysteria over tenuous stories of alleged Russian interference would be better replaced by a coast to coast FBI examination of the role of the Israel lobby in the US political process starting with AIPAC. Pity there are no royal commissions in America!

Meanwhile Mr Singer might get a comforting rush of blood to the head
by writing "Jew-hater" a further 100 times.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 28 May 2017 12:34:33 PM
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#Emperor Julian

You now seek to justify your following statement by referring to the 2006 elections:
"Unlike in Bantustans like occupied Palestine in which access to polling is through armed checkpoints set up by an enemy state run by an ethnic minority masquerading as God's chosen."

The facts of the 2006 elections were:

"Voter turnout for Palestinian Legislative Council elections in Palestine was an impressive 77% of 1.3 million registered voters, including 74% in the West Bank, 82% in the Gaza Strip, and 46% in Arab East Jerusalem despite harsh Israeli restrictions there. Forty-seven percent of registered voters were women. There was almost no violence or intimidation against voters. The results can therefore be said to represent the will of the Palestinian people—a stunning victory for the concept of democracy in the Middle East."
http://pamolson.org/HamasFAQs.htm

Pity that this election process has not been allowed to be repeated by Hamas and the PLO at any time during the last 11 years.

Even stranger that the Gazan and West Bank Arabs are prepared to accept their forced expulsion to the political wilderness by their own leaders. They are prepared to martyr themselves when it comes to murdering Jews but show no interest in martyring themselves when it comes to being liberated from political overlords who are preventing them having a direct say in their own future.

Jew-hatred certainly continues to blind you from accepting reality.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 29 May 2017 11:16:26 AM
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The interference of racist Israel with a mere council election in part of Palestine, detailed in the Guardian, made even that poll a farce. Yet the OLO's resident uber-racist pretends to wonder why the Palestinians haven't held a national election.

The claim that the racist state of Israel is democratic and not founded on racial supremacism is borne on by the questions I asked which I repeat as they remain unaddressed:

"What proportion of those occupying key government posts - Cabinet Ministers, Generals etc - in racist Israel are goyim? How often has a goy been prime Minister?".

Perhaps instead of writing "Jew hater" 100 times Mr Singer might go for variety by interspersing it with "Jew-hating".

He might even go on to set out the difference between Israel and the late unlamented Boer Union/Republic of South Africa, apart from the Boers' choice of privileged race.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 29 May 2017 12:30:50 PM
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#Emperor Julian

What you disparagingly call "a mere council election" was in fact the "second Palestinian parliamentary elections" as the article cited by you yourself makes clear.

You express not the slightest concern that the Palestinian Arabs have not had a vote for their third parliamentary elections for the last 11 years due to the refusal of their overlords - Hamas and the PLO - holding on to power in their respective fiefdoms.

I don't think you are concerned one little bit about the Palestinian Arabs who have been so badly served by their leaders over the last 100 years. You just use them as an excuse to express your implacable Jew-hatred.

Why do you hate Jews so much? What have they ever done to you? Care to share your suppressed reasons and get them off your chest once and for all? Will be cheaper than going to a psychiatrist and certainly make for compelling reading. Your identity is protected by your insistence on anonymity so there is nothing for you to worry about in that regard.

Indeed your rants show just how much you hate the Arabs as well.

Thanks for the suggestion - I will certainly intersperse my references to your Jew-hatred - not with references to your "Jew hating" - but rather with references to your Arab-hatred as well.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 29 May 2017 3:43:46 PM
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