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An Australian should be Australia’s head of state : Comments

By David Swanton, published 3/5/2017

Religion, or lack of it, is a personal decision for each individual. So why would Australians want their head of state to discuss her beliefs?

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David brings forward a reasoned explanation of the basis of regency in Australia.
The history of the Queen of England's being the Queen of Australia as well is an example of tradition and conformity playing a role in the make up of our Constitution.
This article ought make readers think deeply about what they believe, and more importantly, why.
Posted by Ponder, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 9:53:09 AM
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I am just so over fool academics bleating this type of garbage.

It is about time these people were given something worthwhile to do, [sweeping the streets comes to mind] for the money we currently waste on them.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:05:05 AM
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I find this a trivial worry considering the Western world is at war with the Muslim world and can now hadve their legs and arms blown off in their own countries whilst simply going about their everyday business.

My children and their children can also be dispossessed at the ballot box by other ethnic tribes flooding into this country. America already stands on the brink of civil war for this reason. It is probably set to happen in the next few decades.

And even if there is no civil war, it means that the considerable military power of America will fall into the hands,of the Mexicans or some other such group at the ballot box.

These are the realities of the next few decades, whilst the silly people who have bought
About this downfall of Europe and western countries worry about a meaningless head of state issue, that is of no real consequence.

Also the vaguely distant global warming. War and the fall of western countries is a lot more imminent to the safety and wellbeing of Western children and nations than this
seemingly distant global disaster that is taking a heck of a time to materialise.
I have seen no weather event in the past 30years, I haven't seen before in my lifetime.

Anyway, given that territorial wars have always raged unchecked across this planet
and have been unstoppable and unable to be contained or stopped by the United Nations. This, and the global, obscene 7billion and rising, is much more a serious danger and threat to our kids than the toothless queen of England, or the 50-100year,off global warming Overpopulation is stripping whole countries of trees and causing droughts,
wars and famines at a presently happening and alarming rate, which left fools and elitistists
Ignore, whilst continuously bleating on about things tlike
global warming which is much less likely to kill our kids in the next 50years, is.

War and loss of country, has killed more people on this planet than anything else and still remains the most imminent and present danger to our children
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:09:19 AM
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Its a good read, but the premise that Christianity is a private, personal thing is way off base.

Proverbs 27:17 informs Christians that 'Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend'

and in 1 Thessalonians 5:14-15 that,

Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

So, for Christians, it's crucial that leadership seeks the advancement of the Christian faith and the glory of God and country.
Posted by progressive pat, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:29:13 AM
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My mum is in her nineties and she's hanging on
to reach 100 so that she can get a letter from the
Queen. So although I don't have a problem of an
Australian Head of State, I'm hoping that this won't
happen before mum reaches her 100th Birthday.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:55:30 AM
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The loony Left are un-Australian, in fact they are anti-Australian. They seem to be continually trying to destroy everything that underpins our culture. I'd urge them to leave if they don't like the foundations that underpin our culture - they can move to another republic, like North Korea.
Posted by Peter Lang, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 2:00:12 PM
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I'm not a royalist by sentiment but have no quibble with the current arrangement where a purely symbolic, but constitutionally required, function is performed by a hereditary monarch. What really concerns me is the prospect of a ‘head of state’ chosen via an as yet undefined process and possessing the one necessary qualification that attracts so many – being Australian. Someone might care to expound on the possible dangers posed by such a new system – I could suggest a couple (look at Turkey) but fear my imagination is too limited. Frankly this is a job that should be outsourced to an outfit we can rely on to appoint sane, civilized, well-behaved individuals who have no real stake in Australia’s future, live far away and can be trusted not to interfere. Now let me think …..
Posted by Tombee, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 3:17:06 PM
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If attending an event or giving an award is important enough the prime minister can do it. If it is not that important the prime minister can designate someone else to do it. We can do without a head of state. It is just another mouth feeding at the public trough.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 3:38:16 PM
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Australia has a constitutional monarchy, preserved in its original form, and serving its purpose flawlessly.
David’s lack of education is demonstrated by his article.
Our head of state is appropriate to the authentic political structure we are so fortunate to have. There is plenty of scope for the aspirations of young Australians. We do not need destructive lefty nonsense, thanks, David
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 3:54:13 PM
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@Tombee, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 3:17:06 PM

"Frankly this is a job that should be outsourced to an outfit we can rely on to appoint sane, civilized, well-behaved individuals who have no real stake in Australia’s future, live far away and can be trusted not to interfere. Now let me think ….."

Splendid observation Tombee - well done !
Posted by Pilgrim, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 5:29:40 PM
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Australians have already made a judgement on this rubbish. No republic was the answer. Get on with the really important things that need fixing.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 6:18:33 PM
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Dear David,

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I get your point, David. It might be nice to have an Australian as our head of state. That would seem logic.

Mind you, now that we’ve had a foreigner as our head of state for so many years, it could be argued that we’ve set a precedent.

As a matter of fact, I understand that our prime minister recently declared that Australia is now one of the most multicultural countries in the world, if not the most multicultural in the world.

On the other hand, historically speaking, it might make sense for us to have an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person as our head of state. That would be more in line with our national identity as the first peoples in the Pacific.

Or why not an American ? We depend a lot on the US these days – much more than the UK, anyway. We’ve had the Queen for quite a while, now. Perhaps we could give Trump a go. He might do it.

Or how about Xi Jinping ? Trump said he was a nice man – and apparently very intelligent too. He seems to have the right credentials for the post. If he can do China, he can do Australia. That’d be no big deal for a man like him.

But now that I think of it, David, it might even be a good idea to do a duo with Trump and Xi together as co-heads of state. It could prove to be a wise risk management strategy for us to adopt in these troubled waters of the Pacific - as the tides, they are arising.

What do you think ?

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 6:22:10 PM
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David stop being a racist and let's have a muslim transgender Gay person to show how dippy we really are!
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 8:54:37 PM
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The liberal party has had its fair share of English cast offs that believe visiting England is like a homecoming.

Howards type of stacked referendum was a complete waste. No wonder the labor voters would not vote in favor.

Frazer still looking for his pants. What a shambles. The almighty queen of Australia. Even the poms have locked her out.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 4 May 2017 4:03:15 PM
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The head of state shakes hands , walks along a line-up and reads words into a mike.
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Last August, Kirobo traveled to the International Space Station to have a zero gravity chat with JAXA astronaut Koichi Wakata. Kirobo can differentiate between different voices and hold a basic conversation – just don’t expect too much originality. Its first words in space? “[Today], a robot took one small step toward a brighter future for all.”
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 6 May 2017 6:03:14 PM
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I agree with you nnn.
"So why would Australians want their head of state to discuss her beliefs?"
The Anglican church started with the head Henry VIII making women headless as Elizabeth I did to Mary a mother whose holy son became head . Now the head of HM Prison Pentridge and Long Bay, the head of purgatory and repentance works on hearts and minds where her sentences and sermons last for years.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 6 May 2017 7:33:16 PM
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Up your medication Nick, you are losing it again son!
Posted by JBowyer, Saturday, 6 May 2017 7:45:10 PM
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President Coates has led the team since the cold war ended and may become royal . Like Charles he stands against the Russian threats and dopes and John gave us the Magna Carta . What pollie has reigned as long ? If he's made a knight , Gov Gen and vice-regal then it's a short step to King John II.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 6 May 2017 10:38:18 PM
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nickname nick

Are you referring to Mary, Queen of Scots, or Bloody Mary, queen of England.I guess you must mean Mary, Queen of scots, as she was the one Elizabeth executed, because of her plotting to take the English throne and the assasination attempts on Elizabeth.
Bloody Mary, Elizabeth's sister, was famous for cutting off the heads of English citizensw ho would not convert to the Catholic faith.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:55:31 PM
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"If a child aspires to be an executive of a new national high-tech company, captain a national sporting team, be an academic or pursue an interesting career, they should have the opportunity to do so."

Care to explain why?

"If an Australian child aspires to reach what many would consider to be the pinnacle, in a national sense, of being the country’s head of state, she or he is unable to do so."

Yes they can!

We can all become kings and queens; even the chiefs/rulers of the galaxy if we want. If we want to chop off people's heads at our pleasure then we can do that too: all you need is to lie in bed and close your eyes. This wonderful gift of dream allows us to fulfil all our missed desires, even the most unethical and perverted ones and then wake up content and free from those once and for all.

No need to torment others on the physical plane with your national aspirations, David - here is a way to resolve them peacefully, just close your eyes...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 7 May 2017 5:03:57 AM
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"Care to explain why?" Care to explain your question?
Among the reasons to retain monarchy that is the main reason against.
Fair go , equal rights and democracy are contradicted by inherited permanent birth rights to privilege. Centrelink can pay benefits to all such as royal heirs but seizing power like Tudors or having the right to your face on coins and closing roads with police escort and authorising the sack of Gough Whitlam is not on .
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 7 May 2017 7:09:18 AM
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Dear Nick,

«"Care to explain why?" Care to explain your question?»

Well the author has made a grand statement as if everyone should be entitled for a chance to control other people's lives.

Take, say, the first on his list: "an executive of a new national high-tech company" - this mandates the formation of a new national high-tech company, so not only would that child be allowed to order the engineers of that company around, not only would he receive an executive salary, but it would all be taken out of my tax money as well.

One's freedom should be respected - absolute freedom, not rights in relation to other people, especially not rights to control and oppress others!

The monarchs do not control our life. They live far away in England and couldn't care less about what's happening in Australia, thus they do us no harm. However, should their position be filled by an Australian, who knows how much damage they can do!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 7 May 2017 7:46:32 AM
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tax money ? a captain of national sports team is the Prime Minister's cricket team ?
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Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 7 May 2017 9:47:05 PM
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Of course , President Coates can rent out politicians and you don't see the Duke of Cornwall doing that although he likes a profit outside his tax collections.
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Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 7 May 2017 9:54:33 PM
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