We are engaging in environmental destruction which is destroying our economic base, our biological base and our planet. For this to be the chief concern of any political party makes that party a vehicle for facing an issue that is important to all of us. The author dismisses this as a narrow ideology when he refers to the Greens. Is it facing the issues for Turnbull to give a billion dollars to Adani so the pace of destruction can be speeded up? Barnaby Joyce will not be our Saviour.

A sweet dream

david f The greens are driving our environmental and socioeconomic destruction. They've destroyed sensible fire management and replaced it with paramilitary fire fighting organisations that cost billions and are consistently rewarded for failure. Two hundred people have died and countless wildlife and domestic stock have perished since COAG greenwashed Gary Nairn's sensible report on the 2003 fires. Greens stopped the only reliable sustainable renewable energy in hydro. They stopped the only sustainable resource industry in forestry. They've destroyed rural towns and industries as well as our cultural heritage of the The Man from Snowy River, without even a democratic process, just relying on sleazy preference deals for inner city electorates. Joh's alleged gerrymander was honest and transparent by comparison - giving real stakeholders a say. Barnaby Joyce pulling this off would be the only way things could ever be fair and honest again.

I'd like to see Barnaby try this, but I really don't think he's smart enough!

if the angry vote is for Hanson then why is it the anti Trump, socialist and Greens always demostrate with such violence, ignorance and spite. The regressives reverse language and the truth.

Does Everald Compton believe all management boards be totally dominated by their Chairman ?

"The Angry Vote is growing throughout Australia and is doing so at an ever increasing pace as voters grow more and more disenchanted with a political establishment which is so appallingly out of touch with the aspirations of voters."

Easy to agree with this, for different reason.

To suggest solution is either Barnaby or Hanson IMHO demonstrates failure to understand actual problem.

Every elected Member is responsible first to our nation, then their electorate, then to their party.

New leaders will not resolve problem, over-concentrating focus on leaders is the problem.

Leaders appear for a time to work in totalitarian states, yet our voters seek NOT totalitarian government, nor totalitarian listed company management.

Leadership is not about control of everything, such expands the problems.

Corporate and democratic leaders need be negotiators, prepared work with others to achieve shared goals, through general agreements, accepting goals may take longer.

This is democracy.

IMHO voters support Malcolm Turnbull as he promotes an older style of government - Cabinet with Ministerial Responsibility.

Malcolm Turnbull expects Ministers demonstrate their Responsibility over their portfolios, with Cabinet Responsibility, and Parliamentary accountability.

Perhaps some lack understanding of Cabinet Responsibility or reject it.

Our Constitution requires Ministers be Members of the Parliament to ensure they remain Responsible and Accountable, to Parliament thus to our wider community.


Our Prime Minister is Chairman of the Board, one vote of many, not dictator.

Government requires each House of Parliament separately approve each legislative change, this requires co-operation, negotiation, reaching agreement, even when only part of what sort.

Did Australians vote for a dictator, for totalitarianism ?

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There is no way that Joyce is the sort of politician that appeals to anyone who might think about voting for Hanson. For starters, he is an apologist for Islam, publically and stupidly saying “you can't say that” when Hanson had already said 'that' – Islam is a disease. On top of his unreliability as a protector against Islam, he is an absolute buffoon, and his old hat party is a thing of the past, belonging to the golden years when wool was a pound a pound, and we still lived on the sheep's back. He is a clown with a big hat, turning up at rodeos – also outdated amusements.

Everald's 'pick' is also suspect in that he thinks that another buffoon, Josh Frydenberg, is capable of taking over from Turbull. Even the drip, SA Premier Jay Whetherill, made that bloke look stupid.

Joyce is the “best politician in Australia”? Please explain, Everald.

You've got to be kidding polpak, people voted for Turnbull, no way.

Some voted foolishly for their liberal candidate, in the hope they would chuck the grinning idiot out on his head. I have never spoken to a single person who actually voted for Turnbull, or wanted him as PM. I do speak to quite a few who would vote for Abbott.

My considered opinion is that many more people voted for Pauline, or Barnaby, than voted for Turnbull.

However I think it is highly unlikely that Barnaby will break from the coalition, I think he has enough on his plate, holding together what he has, more's the pity.

It's nice to daydream.

The place's been ruined. There's no putting it back together. Well not by any member of the existing dominant parties. They're all culpable.
Even Keating admitted recently major policy shifts from his time were a mistake. Too late now though.

A wrecking ball'd get voted in just out of spite right now. It's the only option the poor bloke has to make the arrogant feel the uncertainty.

Hasbeen talks to plenty of people that would vote for Abbott. That is a disgraceful admission. You downgrade all polititions,except Abbott. After what he done, it,s treasonous. He would do Australia best by handing in his resignation, but no he wants to take a whole party with him.
Remember his volly of lies about not being disruptive. He would not know what it's like to tell the truth.

If only ,Everald, if only.

It's an interesting scenario... the end result is a bit wishful in the amount of success.. but.. if only !

As it stands , The Nationals are dead in the water and will disappear from the Australian political landscape within 10 years, so Barnaby is their last , and only, chance.

They can go down fighting or just wither and die on the vine.

"Malcolm Turnbull is in the twilight of his life as Prime Minister and of his political career. He looks like a Prime Minister, has the intelligence to be Prime Minister and tries to act like the Prime Minister, but fails embarrassingly because he lacks political nous."

What a surprising admission from Everald, who -- if I recall correctly -- barracked for Abbott to be knifed in the back by Malcolm.

It is a pity that Everald and others took so long to realise that Malcolm would perform (or rather fail to perform) that way.

I think you are really right jamo.

Hi Aida, I think you have a good point.

MT is not dead in the water yet.
BJ might make a good PM.
PH deserves a fair go - without slur by media.

jamo

'Even Keating admitted recently major policy shifts from his time were a mistake. Too late now though.'

Did he now? That's big of him. But he can afford contrition, lying back and enjoying his $250,000 non-means tested taxpayer-funded pension, plus a taxpayer-funded chauffeur, a taxpayer-funded office in the big end of town with taxpayer-funded staff of four, and unlimited taxpayer-funded first-class air travel for life.

Keating, together with Bob Hawke, who is also living the equally taxpayer-funded good life retirement, basically destroyed the Labour Party and the aspirations of all working people. He turned Labour into a Tory-lite sellout. Tony Blair was so impressed that he used Keating as his model for the UK's New Labour - and we all know how that turned out.

Barnaby or Hanson, I would rather vote for Katter.
The worst part of Abbotts knifing is it did not go deep enough. Turnbull saved Abbott from losing his seat only as an act of desperation.
Turnbull has failed miserably, unable to control the far right of his party.
I certainly would not put my faith in Hanson putting a party together, five minutes in politics is no recommendation for putting any sort of trust in her.

Is stupid to dismiss good ideas just because someone else thought or spoke them first.

These elected representatives need concentrate and work towards where they agree, not waste time arguing where they disagree.

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The first thing people want to know is where and why you disagree. How many times has Turnbull announced something only to get bulldozed dy the far right. No doubt that is a planned attack on Turnbull to make him look stupid.

They will never amount to anything while Abbott is on the back bench.

Neither. Senator in Exile - Culletons work is by far and away the most important of all.

The Australian Commonwealth Constitution is at deaths door. The entire infringement system has all but over turned the presumption of innocence and the right not to incriminate oneself. Invoking these rights is now seen as evidence of guilt.

Section 8 subsection 12 of the imperial acts Application Act which says that all fines and forfeitures before conviction are illegal and void (in both the Constitution and in the Bill of rights of 1668.

The infringement system has carried us to the point where accusation (speed camera photo) is proof of guilt.

Anyone who claims anything from the "Australian Government" is now in private law and in the main, outside of the constitution

No law passed by the "Australian Government" or the states since about 1975 is legal because none of them have been given royal assent by the Queen via the GG, as is required by the Australian Constitution.

I could go on but as important as the environment is, the Australian Common-wealth Constitution must come first.

Little wonder Doog, that you like Turnbull.

He is so dumb, he makes even you look almost smart.

Everard,

A feeble analysis like most of the others.

The Nationals are unlikely to leave the coalition, as it affords them real decision making power unlike the greens. The greens won't disappear as there will always be the sanctimonious 10%, just as there are vegans exist to loudly inform us of their virtuosity.

One nation is a revolt from the right wing, and if Pauline Hanson was not an idiot, could be polling in the mid teens with an astute leader like Marine le Pen.