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Will the lights go out in Victoria or just industry? : Comments

By Tom Quirk and Paul Miskelly, published 14/2/2017

The real distortion to the system is the treatment of wind generated power.

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What a typically green blob bureaucratic post from our resident blob member.

First dictate that we must use the highly damaging wind power.

When that causes the warned catastrophe, dictate that we can't sell our gas to the highest bidder. We must keep it here, & sell it cheep, to overcome the problems caused by the first dictate.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could just drop all this waste of money trying to please these fools, & let the market do what it is good at.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:53:45 AM
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The closure of Hazelwood Coal Fired Power Station in late March 2017 will be followed by people freezing in Winter (June to August) 2017.

That is, many old, poor and disabled residents of South Australia and Victoria will suffer no heaters as no-coal-fired electricity blackouts increase.

Renewable wind and solar farms have already proven their capacity inadequacy in Summer.

Goodonya LABOR and GREENS political morons of South Australia and Victoria and the ignorant voters who invited them in.

I reckon voters should vote Liberal, Conservative or further to the right for policies to shift the renewable subsidise to construction of new coal fired power stations in South Australia and Victoria.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:58:24 AM
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How private enterprise works, if you can keep the green blob, Labor & their bureaucratic mates the hell out of it.

Many years back a mate of mine's father, Joe, was a truckie. He'd developed a good business with a fleet of trucks, carrying coal from the mines around Lithgow to the rail head.

When the mines started to become uncompetitive & started to close, he was losing his trade. A couple of young engineers were claiming they had an idea for a new technique that would make them profitable, but no owners would try it.

Joe bought a couple of the closed leases & invested in the new technique. It worked, the mines were viable, & the trucking profitable.

Those engineers developed further improvements, the mines became quite profitable, & the engineers with Joe made a lot of money exporting their mining techniques, as well as the coal all over the world.

Then an entrepreneur sold oilseed to Asia. He contracted farmers around Lithgow to grow the stuff, & he needed someone to tranship it from farm to rail. My mate & I, contracted to do this, using some innovative transhipment techniques developed by his dad's company.

We sold out of it after a couple of years, too busy with other things, but 30 years later the coal is finished, but the oil seed business is thriving.

What would the left have done? Subsidised the mines, & made utilities buy overpriced coal, what else?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 12:40:44 PM
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Dear hasbeen,

You really do give me a laugh you curmudgeonly old coot. Terribly weak on math and physics now showing a similar ignorance with economics.

The price of gas did not go up because we have wind energy but because of demand from countries like Japan and China.

Anyway back to the US.

So the country most wedded to free market ideals protected its manufacturing by blocking oil and gas exports for over 40 years and you have just decided it was a waste of money and that they were all fools?

Basically you are more than happy to see the abundance with which this country has been so blessed with dug up by mainly foreign owned internationals and sold overseas rather than benefiting Australians? Why can't we regard you as anti-Australian? Perhaps even traitorous? If you are so enamoured with the 'market' then I normally would have suggested you emigrate to the US but even they don't measure up to your high-minded ideological stance. You are just another elite pushing a discredited ideology down the throats of ordinary working Aussies.

Is that yacht of yours still in service? I think the high seas might suit you better. It would certainly mean the ratio of those who care about Australian jobs and our nation as a whole would improve.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 12:46:11 PM
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You can always tell a Victorian, but you can't tell them very much!

These fruit loops couldn't organise a round of drinks at a brewery! (thanks Pete) And would be a bankrupt going somewhere to happen if tasked with running any manufacturing based enterprise!?

And not helped by the financial/economic absurdity that is the tail wagging the dog, green's secret agenda, wish list!

I don't know about the lights going out, but we can be assured the lights will be flashing on and off, more off than on?

It's time to stop thinking solely about staying in power, but rather what the country and its people need!

And that's surety of supply and affordability! And eminently doable!

We also need jobs, jobs, jobs! And spraying the airwaves and ether with spittle laden bombast, isn't going to do anything except create a few more cerebral hemorrhages as folks who've had up to here, go into melt down and go ballistic!

As always pampered and privileged beyond measure, self serving politicians and oddly, public servants rarely if ever, have to suffer the consequences of the most daft decisions ever foisted on us by experts! X being an unknown quantity and a spurt, merely a great big drip under pressure!

If the last heatwave, catastrophic fire conditions and consequential loss of life and property Hasn't convinced these numskull to go nuclear, then what eventually will?

The destruction of an entire town? Another Canberra catastrophe?

And we don't have to opt for the technology that creates bombs or bomb making material or enormous toxic waste, but rather the type that ameliorates against any and all the above!

This current diabolical stuff up, is what you get when Tweedledum is in charge? and expect even less sane decision when we hand the reins to Tweddle Dumber, as per usual! (inmates in charge of the asylum)

If these folk shared a brain, it'd be lonely. Even then you could put it in a thimble and still hear it rattle!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 14 February 2017 12:50:56 PM
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Re "These fruit loops couldn't organise a round of drinks at a brewery! (thanks Pete)"

No worries Alan B. :)

Or a r--t in a brothel!
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 2:17:06 PM
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