You deniers seem very angry.

Arjay,

Yes, it turns out that C02 is not the only driver of climate. Who would’ve thought?

It’s funny, isn’t it? One moment, you lot are arguing that our climate is far too complex to attribute it to human activities just yet; then, when a singular piece of data appears to support your position, it all becomes so simple again and past levels of C02 during periods of glaciation suddenly expose a hoax so grand in scale that it would be impossible to hide.

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Hasbeen,

Appeals to authority are not fallacious if the authorities cited are experts in their field. What IS fallacious, however, is waving the Appeal to Authority about to dismiss a consensus amongst experts.

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runner,

Here’s a quote, just for you:

“The dams will never fill again.” - No one, ever.

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You deniers are desperate, swooping in with your cherry-picked data, false fallacies, and misquotes like that.

I do try hard to see it from the deniers’ perspective, though. I suppose I too would be tempted to wade through the data, employing confirmation bias as I went, if there were a critical issue that needed our immediate attention which could only be resolved by, say, being really homophobic or taking a devil-take-the-hindmost approach to economics. As it turns out, however, there are no issues which are resolved by such means. But there is a pressing issue that requires us to look after our environment, so it is you deniers who are left to cherry-pick data because the thought of finally having to give those tree-huggers what they've always wanted, by looking after the environment, is just too much to bear.

In terms of temperature, wind from Indian Ocean waters has to be measured and assessed because warm air coming off that ocean surface has an effect on air temperature flowing eastward over Australia. I think there is similarity in how a car engine gets hotter on a hot day. If already hot air is being forced into the cooling system, then the system will not be as cool as it would be if cool air was being forced in.

Warm air definitely comes off the Indian Ocean because that warm air is known to sometimes split the skin of white wine grapes growing in some WA vineyards.

Northern waters of the Indian Ocean now have historically unprecedented sewage and land use nutrient overload pollution and associated algae blooms. Algae generally is plant matter

Apart from impact or not from CO2, why do warmisters not measure and assess impact of increase in ocean algae plant matter?

My own temperature probe measurements of warmth in algae show consistently that warmth is retained more in water with algae than is water without algae.

Areas of ocean ecosystems where where algae is present or has been present is warmer and higher, indicating reason why sea level rise is not global/everywhere at the same time.

What sort of year did Australia's marine environment have?

Destruction and devastation of coral on Australia's Great Barrier Reef has continued because politically tenable media focus remains on AGW and CO2, ignoring coral smothered during mini or macro dead zone (hypoxia) events caused by nutrient overload proliferated algae.

Media does not closely show and point out and investigate and report on the dead areas of coral in comparison to library images of thriving areas of coral of the past.

Consequently the public and politicians are therefore not understanding need for nutrient load reduction and say "nutrient trading", instead of emissions trading.

The real life situation indicates climate science is grossly incomplete without knowledge of weather-linked ocean and lake ecosystems and especially under-surface temperature.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100305-baltic-sea-algae-dead-zones-water/

Dear Hasbeen,

Well from that I assume you are not higley7. In that case please refrain from attempting to look knowledgeable on this stuff by plagiarising someone else's post from a denialist site. It wasn't even that good, but you were not to know that because you have so little grasp on the physics and science of global warming. How do I know? Well because if you had you would not have felt the need to copy and paste another person's words to pass them off as your own.

Perhaps you could go do one of the excellent courses available to bring you a bit of a handle on the physics and maths involved. Good luck and be sure to let me know if you need a hand with any of it.

' t wasn't even that good, but you were not to know that because you have so little grasp on the physics and science of global warming. '

what a laugh Steelie. Coming from jokers who can't work out the basics in what is needed to keep power running. This has been done for a century or more before these fraudulent ' scientist' got to make a name for themselves (albeit fools).

Dear runner,

Mate you are getting more and more obtuse as the years go on. Just for clarity I do not work in the electricity industry and am at a loss why you even went there. How about one day you actually attempt to put a cogent argument forward on the thread's topic rather than run in here like a neutered Jack Russel, a touch crazed with mange, nipping and snarling for a second before fleeing?

Dear Don,

Why on earth are you straining your eyes over pixellated gifs on a dodgy denialist site when your could go and look at the data from your own BOM?
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/annual/aus/2016/annual-summary-table.shtml