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In terms of temperature, what sort of a year did we have in Australia? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 8/2/2017

Fiddling with the past is all too reminiscent of Orwell’s 1984. Maybe there are good reasons, and maybe if I did a lot of work I would find them.

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Too much with the graphs and statistics. These things are used to bamboozle us, and are all too readily bendable. Adelaide: wettest Summer for 80 years. No warming for 20 years. Nature itself is all we need to prove that the climate hysteria and rent-seeker rip-offs are part of a huge global fraud. The 'science' is the worst since the flat-earth thinking. Donald Trump is the one to put a stop to this fraudulent madness.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 8:59:15 AM
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What amuses me about this gizzard-lore is that they presume to read off the tax rate from it. Real dark ages stuff.

"Fiddling with the past is all too reminiscent of Orwell’s 1984. Maybe there are good reasons, and maybe if I did a lot of work I would find them."

Follow the money.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:07:04 AM
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Thanks Don, a really great article, as usual.

I really don't know how any thinking, honest person can argue with this evidence.

I was aware of all this, but putting it together in such a concise form is really valuable, for getting the message to any who really care, but perhaps don't have the math, or Google skills.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:39:18 AM
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Hey Foxy, I hope you are reading this it is some of what I've been telling you. I know the green blob members will avoid it, in case their minds become contaminated with the truth, & have to admit the whole crumbling edifice of global warming is rotten to the core.

Meanwhile I'll just add some science proving CO2 can't do what they want you to believe.

CO2 facts

As CO2 and water vapour are more accurately called “radiative gases” they have different behaviours depending on day or night. During the day they absorb IR convert it to heat and just as readily convert heat into IR. As they are saturated during the day, their effect would be nil.

However, at night, with no insolation causing RI from above or below, these gases would convert heat energy in the atmosphere to IR which is eventually lost to space. Note how quickly the lower troposphere chills down after sunset or how quickly little breezes kick up in the shadows of scudding clouds on a mostly sunny day. The bottom line is that radiative gases cool the planet.

The idea that these gases heat the atmosphere directly is a sleight of hand done by the warmists. As their tropical upper tropospheric “hotspot,” which their “science” said HAD to be heating faster than anywhere else and thus heating the surface, simply does not exist (the region has been gently cooling for 30+ years). They quietly abandoned that “science” and tacitly assume that these gases heat the atmosphere directly. They have no evidence for this of any kind, but talk constantly as if it’s done science.

Warmist “science” is failed science, as the surface is always hotter than the air during the day and any IR sent to the surface would be reflected and not absorbed, according to thermodynamics that cannot be disputed. The upper tropical troposphere is -17 deg C and the surface is 15 deg C. Cold cannot warm hot.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 2:52:57 PM
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Good lord Hasbeen you do remind me so much of my evolution-denying creationist father in law it is uncanny. Yet even he accepts global warming is occurring.

I invite you to read again what you have dished up and then tell me if you stand by it totally and without reservation.

If you really do then we can play.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 3:10:31 PM
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@SteeleRedux you're wasting your own time trying to get any sense out of neverwas.

His only employment was a short as a part time car park attendant. Since then he has been typing away on his mothers pc giving advice to the world, based on his experiences parking cars.

He calls himself haseen because his car parking days were fifty years ago and he doesn't think he has it in him any longer. i think he is right.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 3:53:15 PM
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