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Australian brothels and sexual slavery : Comments

By Vicki Dunne, published 10/10/2005

Vicki Dunne argues Australia's attitude to sexual servitude is not based on humanitarian principles.

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'“Lord of the Rings” is fiction. “Encyclopaedia Britannica” is non-fiction.'

In the kindest possible way...

"Lord of the Rings" was written by a man. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has had female contributors since 1911.

But once again, we shouldn't let mere facts get in the way of a good misogynist rant :)
Posted by mahatma duck, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:28:02 PM
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Its easy to tell who the misogynists and misadrists are in this place.

They are very quick to misrepresent and take wot others say out of context in order to, well, call people names and hide behind veiled insults.

Essentially the man and woman haters hate each other to the point that they are so blinded by their own hateful rhetoric that they loose site of the fact that they too are dirty pots and kettles.

The misogynists call women misandrists.
The misandrists call men misogynists.

You folks are made for each other. Why dont you start a new country somewhere and leave the rest of us in peace. Go there are knock yourselves out. It really is very annoying constantly being drawn into your divisive, combative and hostile "us versus them" rhetorical invective.
Posted by trade215, Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:01:47 AM
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Timkins
Does your Mum agree with your views?
Posted by rossco, Thursday, 13 October 2005 1:09:09 PM
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Vicki, I appreciated this article very much. This is a highly complex topic that desperately needs serious action. (Many comments on this article have not stuck to the topic, which is a shame.)

I hope that something is done very soon - perhaps increase funding to Project Respect and other organisations which have good knowledge of the situation and have a range of practical and legislative ideas to put into action.
Posted by ruby, Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:12:06 PM
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Vicki Dunne
“Sex Slavery” in our society may not exist, because people have searched for it, but so little of it has been found.

However you write, “Then there are those who follow Marx and the more radical feminists in saying ordinary bourgeois marriage itself is a form of prostitution”

Under Marxist / Feminist systems, slavery has become very widespread in our society, as a form of slavery that could be termed “Capacity to Earn Slavery”. This slavery originally comes from sex, but it mainly effects men (i.e. possibly 1 in 3 men have been, or are presently effected by it). Many men have been severely effected by this form of slavery, and quite a few have suicided because of it, but this form of slavery seems very acceptable to the majority of women (see
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16756161%255e2702,00.html)
http://www.melbourneinstitute.com/hilda/conf/conf2003/pdffiles/BSmyth.pdf)

I believe that this is why so few female authors or female politicians, have ever mentioned the most common form of slavery presently in our society, because it mainly effects men, and so many women are accepting of it.

Mahatma Duck.
You are mere.
You are not good.
You are a misogynist.
You rant.
You are :)

Females have written literature for many years, but few awards have been given to female authors for non-fiction. That is a fact, but acres of literature have been written by female authors in an attempt to portray females as being perpetually oppressed by males in some way. By the way this article makes references to males, this article appears very similar.

Trade,
If someone calls me a misogynist, I can call them a misogynist
If someone calls me a misandrist, I can call them a misandrist

It is interesting that on OLO, if I am critical of a male, very few maligning things are said about me. But if I’m critical of a female, many maligning things are said about me. How odd. However I don’t automatically believe anything simply because it has been written by a female author.
Posted by Timkins, Friday, 14 October 2005 9:16:19 AM
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"A considerable amount of Government time and law Court time is taken up with trying to determine if an allegation is true or false" - Timkins

Well that's fair. I would argue that this is sole main purpose of the court and legal system.

Timkins, I accept that women sometimes "cry wolf". I also accept that there are likely to be a number of false allegations made against men. In my view both men and women are far from perfect.

But we cannot remove a crime from the rulebook or avoid implementing measures to combat it simply because accusers might lie.

Other than that, the burden of proof applies as is tradition. And... as I implied, if there are no foreign workers in brothels (without visas) then we're unlikely to get an influx of visa/protection applications.

Finally... if there are illegal workers in brothels - well something is going wrong in that case.
Posted by WhiteWombat, Friday, 14 October 2005 2:36:22 PM
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