Vicki

Thank you for your article.

If, what you say is true, this is an apalling situation.

You seemm to a lot about it, so as a parliamentarian, why haven't you done something about it?

Good posts Rossco.

Cheers
Kay

I don't know if anyone else picked up the obvious philosophical issue in the article which is of CRUCIAL importance for the whole area of the 'make-it-up-as-u-go' morality crowd.

It was the bit about women not being allowed to refuse employment EVEN IN THE SEX industry ! (Germany) So.. here is how the flow goes.

1/ Make some previously illegal behavior 'legal'.
2/ Now that its 'legal' there is no reason not to regard it as any other 'occupation'.
3/ Women can now be 'legally' degraded.

There is no reason whatsoever that this logic cannot be applied in Australia or any secular society. At least not on philosophical or legal grounds.

I hope it comes as no surprise that 'bible bashers' like me, immediately pick up on this and point all of us to the need for a more authoritative and enduring foundation for our society.

As Christ said "He who hears my words and DOES them... is like a man who built his house on a rock. The storms and wind came but it remained firm"

The other side of that coin, which he also pointed out "He who hears my words and does NOT do them, is like a man who built his house on sand... the wind came.. and the storm, and great was the destruction etc"

Is it not obvious that when we (through the legislature) can force women to be sex slaves, there is something terribly terribly WRONG with our social foundations ?

I would actually have some doubts about the articles claim of Asian women coming as described. There are oodles of volunteers just itching to get to first world countries from China. Immigration checks would put a stop to the practice. Its VERY hard for a single phillipino girl to get into Australia.

Vicki Dunne is a Canberra Liberal, and was a public servant from 1979 to 1995 I read on the internet. I mustn't have been reading the papers too closely recently, but I somehow never thought that one of Howard's troops would care about human rights. Apparently there is hope yet, if you are female that is. Although, if you are Asian looking and Australian, you might still get deported ... And we all know what happens to Liberals that bring up mail order brides. Et tu, John?

As a brothel worker for the past 23 years (on and off so to speak!) I thought you might like to know some antidotal facts.
- there is no distinction made between sex workers who visit Australia to work and those who decide to work after visiting. I have worked with many "Asian" and "European" women who have been brought up in Australia and choose to work but find themselves caught up in the "migrant" net,
- if I had a choice of slaving for a pittance in bad conditions or being taken to Australia for work in the sex industry for a couple of years where I can take my lifetime income home with me, I know what I would choose,
- yes, there is organised crime by the triads but it is not as large as some would make it out to be, but what exists is really bad, it also (at least in Queensland) preys on private sex workers who have very limited english language skills and community networks,
- most of the women comming to Australia for sex work know what they are getting into and most get the choice to go home or stay and apply for visa when their tenure runs out,
- for all the talk about "rescuing the poor women" why not work on getting rid of the crime so we can go about earning a living. Alot of us actually like our jobs, both migrant and aussie alike!

Kalweb, I'd like to know how you think a politician does their work. Vicki's moved a motion at the Liberal Party's Federal Conference (which was apparently passed unanimously) and now she's promoting a petition on this site which will be presented by two other Liberals (Bruce Baird and Gary Humphries) in the Federal Parliament. Looks like some pretty heavy lifting to me!

The petition is at http://petitions.nationalforum.com.au/petitions.asp?id=3. If you agree with her, you might give it a push.

BTW, we are interested in petitions in all sorts of issues, so if anyone knows of any other hardworking politicians, or community activists who could use this site, send them my email.

Graham

Thank you for your post and thanks for the link to the poll. I have read and signed it.

Cheers
Kay