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Australian brothels and sexual slavery : Comments
By Vicki Dunne, published 10/10/2005Vicki Dunne argues Australia's attitude to sexual servitude is not based on humanitarian principles.
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Posted by WhiteWombat, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:56:43 AM
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Anomie,
You have a red face. You look foolish. You rant about women. You are suspect. You opt out of discussions. You are a female writter. There are many female writers in the media, probably more than male writers if a total count was taken. But have you ever noticed how so few ever win the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0105790.html or even the Pulitzer Prize for Non-Fiction. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0154413.html Maybe this should be telling female writers something, regards the general accuracy, objectivity and reliability of their literature. I don’t think using a pseudonym would help win a Pulitzer Prize either. It’s the content that counts. Maximus, I see you didn’t include authors from the plethora of women’s magazines in your list. Understandable in many ways. If someone bought one of those magazines and read it, I think it would be completely justifiable if they returned it and asked for their money back. WhiteWombat A considerable amount of Government time and law Court time is taken up with trying to determine if an allegation is true or false. In recent times, there have been many allegations made about the male gender, and nearly all have come from female authors, who have quite often called themselves "feminist". But when those allegations have been properly investigated, the vast majority have been found to be false, or the female gender was equally implicated. “Crying wolf” is now a problem for women in general, and likely to become more of a problem in the future if it continues. Posted by Timkins, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 3:55:18 PM
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"Maybe this should be telling female writers something, regards the general accuracy, objectivity and reliability of their literature"
Reluctant though I am to engage with some of the silliest statements I have ever heard against women, I feel compelled to point out that Timkins you, deliberately no doubt, forgot to mention that women have in fact since the year 2000, women have won two Pulizers for fiction writing http://www.betweenthecovers.com/aw-ab/pul-lit.htm I had previously wondered why George Elliot would use a male name to publish under, and why the Bronte sisters originally used male pen names. Now I know. Who would have thought such sweepingly silly statements about the literary talents of men versus women could be made in 2005? Posted by Laurie, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 4:46:48 PM
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Timkins
If that web-site does exist and if indeed Australian women are selling their babies - that is both a crime and child abuse and should be reported to the police and DoCS. I thought you would stand up for childrens' rights? Kay Posted by kalweb, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 5:15:20 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me what some people will do for sex, especially regular sex and how easily that slavish drive for sex can be manipulated for one's own ends.
l have seen some people jump thru hoops and crawl over broken glass to get to that alluring promise of sex. Some will indulge incredible self degradation and dismiss any semblance of self respect in order to get the necessary approval from the provider of sexual intimacy. Some people will withstand a lifetime of emotional and psychological manipulation and outright abuse in the hope of getting their monthly dose. Fancy shelling out a week's wage for a bit of sex or the mere allure of sex (stripping). What sort of person gives a week of work for a bit of sex. And what sort of person takes a week's sweat off someones back for a bit of sex. Sex slaves. Slaves to sex. Indeed. Posted by trade215, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 7:17:40 PM
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Laurie
“Lord of the Rings” is fiction. “Encyclopaedia Britannica” is non-fiction. Few women writers have ever received prizes for non-fictional literature. That is a fact, and maybe female writers should begin to seriously think about this, if they want their literature to be taken seriously, or be believed. Anything can be written within fiction, but non-fiction has to be accurate, reliable, verifiable, provable etc, (or it becomes fiction). Lines such as “mostly, but not always men”, or “only a middle-aged male politician could possibly think” etc, have all been heard before in various allegations made about males, (mainly made by female authors), but the vast majority of those allegations have latter been found to be fictional. If the author knows of these “sex slaves”, then she can report them to the police. Otherwise her article could well be fictional, with almost no cases of “sex slaves” being found in Australia. There are possibly more people hit by lightening each year than there are “sex slaves” in Australia. Posted by Timkins, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:39:48 PM
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If there are sex slaves in Australia then this proposal would seem to help them. If there aren't any... well I can't see how the proposal would cause any problems in that case.
I do believe that there were some recent cases in the media where DIMA (allegedly and from memory) frustrated police by deporting the witness immediately. I think this is plausible given their recent public record.