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Person of the Year: time to look beyond the obvious : Comments

By Bashir Goth, published 29/12/2016

The men and women of Syrian Civil Defence, known as ‘Syrian White Helmets’, deserve the title as they sacrifice their lives to rescue those trapped in the war zone.

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//Ah ... no. They are operating from a studio backlot in Hollywood//

Presumably the same backlot they faked the Apollo 11 landing on.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 30 December 2016 5:59:40 AM
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Hi Killarney,

So, just to clarify: the White Helmets are digging people and bits of bodies out of the rubble caused by Russian bombing.

So they must be anti-Russian. Therefore they must be pro-American.

Ergo: it's all an American plot. They don't exist. They're actors, kids, bodies and all.

The Russians aren't bombing the daylights out of Syrian people. That's also, by sounding anti-Russian, pro-American. Therefore false. There are no Russian planes in the Middle East.

Have I got that right ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 30 December 2016 6:56:05 AM
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Hey Toni and Loudmouth,

You're both often sceptical of the links and arguments I put forward in my responses, and I don't really begrudge that in itself considering often the things I post do seem outlandish, and given that you guys are much more products of the corporate media than I, though this is not my fault.
- But I wonder whether your comments are reasonable, or just ignorant.

5 or 10 years ago your responses would've came across more valid, and you would've highlighted the 'conspiracy nutjob' factor of my response but times are different now.

Did you actually do any fact checking on the actual content Loudmouth, or was it just your overall impression of the website I linked to ?

Remember not too long ago when you guys all thought Hillary had a 96% chance of winning?
Did those websites 'look' more believable?
That's your corporate media, full of BS to 'steer you' rather than 'inform you'.
Who was the one talking about manipulated corporate media electoral polls? Me.

If you went to the independent media, you, (like me) might know something useful and not be an ill informed mindless jellyfish questioning the things I post.

If you take this attitude of believing the corporate media and pre-judging everything that doesn't fit into 'your personal belief system'; without actually looking into it you are never going to be informed.

Did you actually take the time to listen to what this reporter who personally spent a lot of time in Syria had to say? You don't have to believe her, but you should actually get a broad understanding of whats going on before you comment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_Defense
http://www.redstate.com/diary/blbennett/2016/09/28/soros-hacks-reveal-clinton-must-never-president/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6709
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room-inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american-british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-supports-isis/5492807
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/11/staged-isis-beheading-video-hacked-from-mccain-staffer/

Please, next time you want to nitpick, firstly do some initial fact checking then ask yourself if you are merely just advertising your own ignorance.
Now I'm not going to guarantee everything I post is 100 percent proven fact but who can?
At least I'm broader minded to the bigger picture.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 31 December 2016 1:36:58 AM
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//If you went to the independent media, you, (like me) might know something useful and not be an ill informed mindless jellyfish//

Ah, personal abuse from a man who thinks is quality investigative journalism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5KTiAcTEyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn2kuT6Xx8w

Life is good :)
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 31 December 2016 7:03:45 AM
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Well Toni it's true isn't it, after all you've proved you're a bit of an ignoramus as well in choosing your links, and I wouldn't have to say the things I do if people didn't try to attack me first right?

Joe had to jump in with his loudmouth 2 cents and try to start an argument of sorts, and I was going to let it go because the lack of a 'being informed' factor on Joe's part meant I'd be arguing with an idiot on the topic of Syria and it wouldn't be worth the effort.
- But then he started on Killarney (who referenced things I said in) so I gave him his loudmouth 2 cents anyway.
So whats the big deal?

Now as for that first link you responded with, (you ignoramus) did you actually notice who made it?
Hint: There was a big prompt at the end of the video.
Or maybe did you noticed whose Youtube channel it may have been?

No, because you're an ill informed jellyfish that doesn't know much either.
Questioning the fake beheading videos?
Of course, because you wouldn't have bothered paying attention to my first link, which showed Rita Katz' SITE Intelligence group.
No, you open you mouth like an idiot just like Joe did without checking any of the actual content.

You think you're all smart and liberal but there's plenty you don't know, and truthfully its really funny because the people who see themselves as being smart liberal people only look twice as dumb, twice as stupid and twice as pathetic when they get it wrong.

I don't claim to be something I'm not.
You just try to dig at me and you hate it I because I barely raise a sweat with your feeble attempts.

Why don't you look up 'Media Matters'?
Do you even know who they are?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7150

I don't care if you post stupid cut videos of Alex Jones what exactly are you trying to prove?
He often rambles a lot of crap and I'll be the first to admit it so who cares?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 31 December 2016 8:45:26 AM
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Hi AC,

When you write, " ....If you take this attitude of believing the corporate media and pre-judging everything that doesn't fit into 'your personal belief system'; without actually looking into it you are never going to be informed...."

if you revised that to 'any media', I'd fully agree. But whether or not we should follow up and believe every hint of conspiracy and double-dealing on the basis of an unfounded accusation, I don't really agree. Sorry, but that's what being sceptical about media means. If I find some utter rubbish on a web-site, then that's it. Life's too short to waste on baseless conspiracies.

Independent media ? Yeah, right.

But I take exception to your comment that I '.... might .... be an ill informed mindless jellyfish .... '. I think jellyfish are much maligned, they may hold many secrets for medical science yet. The rest of what you write is cruel but probably fairly accurate. Must do better.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 31 December 2016 10:29:28 AM
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