"Trust" should never be uttered in the same breath as "politician"; all politicians are untrustworthy, now that politics is an over-paid career choice that has nothing to do with public service.

I honestly don't understand the pollies' reaction to the Adler. 5 shots are ok... 7 shots are a no no... really?

The Adler, if it is popular, is not because its a weapon of mass destruction, there are better guns on the market, you just have to pay a bit more.

Pump actions are just as fast some faster. So what is the issue? Just a knee jerk reaction to some slick advertising if you ask me. Some gun retailers have done the proverbial and shot themselves in the foot.
Talk about over-reaction and storms in teacups....

@ttbn, something I can agree with. Good people may go into politics for all the right reasons, However they never stay long, and seldom make per-selection in major parties.

Trust David? What? In an honest politician? You'd have to find one first!

That said, how dare you presume to do backdoor deals that reflect only on your personal belief, PEDANTIC PREDILECTIONS or preferences, rather than those of the wider NSW electorate you were elected, presumably, hopefully, occasionally to represent, as an UNCOMPROMISED STATE SENATOR!

And they likely outnumber shooters and fishers, three to one? State licenced shooters and Fishers are represented by State politicians exclusively!

Did you forget where you are, what and who you are and whose views you are paid to represent?
Alan B.

Alan B says "That said, how dare you presume to do backdoor deals that reflect only on your personal belief, PEDANTIC PREDILECTIONS or preferences, rather than those of the wider NSW electorate you were elected,". But he ran on a platform of protecting freedoms, including the freedoms to own firearms. Just as we would expect a Greens senator to stand up the rights of refugees or be anti-logging, we must expect a Libertarian senator to stand up for freedoms. That is how our democracy works, flawed as it may be.

I haven't ever contesteed the right to own firearms, just dubious backdoor deals that are only about, two more shots in a magazine? Some rights can't be traded away for two more shots in a gun few have heard of, even though it's 120 year old technology. Moreover there's vastly superior weapons or anti-varmint tools!

Simply put, if you can't bring down a duck with two shots? Five more won't help.

Personally, I'd opt for a fully automatic five shot equipped with a barel tip laser pointer. I'd sooner a dead bird than one critically wounded but able to fly away and die by degrees over a painful day! Alan B.

I am astounded that you ever thought that you could believe a politician!

Aside from that I saw an advertisement/claim that the weapon could be fired at a round per second.

Perhaps so, if it were merely pointed at the ground and the action operated. But Aimed shots per second? Not in your wildest dreams.

you are a conviction politician David which should be admired. Abbott was also a conviction pollie although he was very silly to agree to wasting more money on Gonski etc to be elected. He also should of slashed funding for the socialist propganda (abc). Turnbull on the other hand has next to no conviction hence Pauline's resurrection.

You sound surprised David. You shouldn't be. It's todays Liberal party.
They'll say absolutely anything to get your vote.

Confidence is draining away. Seems every day one can look at the news and find yet another cause for concern. In this case it's the clear intention to deceive along with yet another example of direct state interference in the marketplace. Wouldn't be so bad if there was some logic to it.
Indeed it's quite the irony that those who're always ready to say we need to improve efficiency move so cavalierly to restrict more efficient tools when they come along.

It's a disturbingly recurring trend.

What a waste of time and effort, no professional hooter will bother to get an Adler on Cat.D as there are far more efficient guns available in that category.

Anyway a double barrel, auto ejector shotgun can be fired faster than an Adler.

As for rapidity of fire and aimed shots I can fire 15 aimed shots, at 50 yards, from a single shot rifle in one minute.

Further to the above; while all the argument was going on over the classification of the Adler, the 1890 pump action .22 Winchester (126 year old technology) that can hold 23 rounds in the magazine, was sitting happily in Cat A where it's been since 1996 and nary a word about this fast firing rifle. (hold the trigger down and it fires as the breech block locks).

Maybe it's time for those that object to rapidity of fire to start doing their home work.

This is an 1892 Winchester, of which there are thousands in Australia, 124 year old technology.
The opening from "The Rifleman", didn't turn a hair back in 1958.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IVCwYPjFXc

Now that's rapid fire. Turnbull et. al. take note.

Backroom trading across issues is a betrayal of the democratic principle that elected senators should follow the policies on which they were elected. Great when these backrooms deals come unstuck.

The most effective way for the gun freaks to defeat Mr Howard's overwhelmingly popular legislation against their armaments is GRADUALISM. A chip out of it here, a chip out of it there until it's a dead letter. The Adler rapid mass killing weapon is a prime case - just two extra shots, what's the big deal?

The big deal is the gun freaks' end game - Australia to end up like America in which 30000 citizens shoot each other dead every year, in addition to those maimed by guns then bankrupted by a private hospital.