Looks like Victoria is following South Australia in a predictable way down the rust-belt gurgler.

This will certainly answer the prayers of Greens and leftwing ALP trendies who want to de-industrialise.

This is a process that will make life harder for people less well off than Greens and leftwing ALP trendies.

Oh yes limiting Climate Change?

If Australia takes extremepainful measures now - but developing India and China will grow sharply in the next 10-20 years anyway - there will be no actual benefit from Australian climate change efforts.

According to BBC News, in September 2014, China surpassed the European Union's per capita carbon emissions for the first time in history. China's per capita carbon emissions now stand at 7.2 t/capita.[5] China's carbon emissions have increased rapidly since its economic boom in the early 2000s. Since then, their per capita carbon emissions have increased by more than 2.5 times.[6] More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_China

the saddest part is that these gw charlatons are and never will be held to account. Despite numerous dud predictions they shamelesssly carry on with this mad gw madness dogma as if it is science. It does go to show that when people reject the truth they will carry on with all sorts of madness. The high priests and well paid propagandist will continue to be able to fly around in jets spruiking their lies and dumming down kids while pensioners will freeze in winter and fry in summers. You can be sure these hypocrites won't be the ones taking the hit. They will remain on their high moral horse and demonise anyone interested in true science when it comes to climate. Hopefull the deplorables will wake up from their sleep.

Raycom,

They are both barking, both Labor.

I shouldn't worry too much! Given there's enough hot air coming out of our do nothing talk fest Parliaments, to power the whole of Australia!

Look, we have enough easily recovered thorium in our topsoils to power the world for a thousand years and thousands more if we mine igneous rock, for the most energy dense material on the planet.

The only thing denser, being the pea brains inventing half assed excuses for just not looking ever; at this CHEAPER THAN COAL,
SAFER THAN COAL, CLEANER THAN COAL option!

And if ever embraced as our least costly alternative,( power bills a low as a possible $1.00 a year) and kept as the people's power!

[I kid you not, and the very reason why both the fossil fuel industry and big nuclear are fighting tooth and nail to keep this stuff in the ground!]

Given the only thing missing is added, the political will, it could be!

And do a lot more than just keep the lights on, but resuscitate our energy dependant industries and drought proof Australia as well!

VERY DOABLE!

Now who in their right mind could possibly want that!?

I ask you, how long were electric light bulbs burning in other places before we lit more than a country town here, with them?

And is it true that our visionaries were limited to just one farsighted Tamworth shire council?

And if true, how much has really changed at the nation's helm in a century or more? Where timidity reigns supreme and or, being last to embrace proven technology is praiseworthy? In the aptly named COWARD'S CASTLE?
Alan B.

With the imminent closure of Hazellwood about to become a reality, Victoria is going to require a new base load power station of at least 1Gw capacity. We have 3 alternatives, gas, brown coal or nuclear. If we want to reduce CO2 emissions it will have to be nuclear. It doesn't made how much wind generating capacity we build, in adverse weather that will all go to nought and we will have blackouts as happened in S.A.

David

Prompete and David: Finally a couple of posters who not only get it but think with a brain rather than a half assed ideological imperative!

I urge those who want to know the irrefutable facts, to look at, thorium and what they didn't want you to know, on google tech talks, on U tube. Or thorium V greens.

You can waste time here trying to get through the carved in stone ideology of the pea brain anti-nuclear brigade and their hopelessly outdated museum piece presentations! Or get educated!

No, I can't direct you to an operational thorium reactor. Nor a model T ford pick up!

But I can point you to documentary evidence of their existence and startlingly successful incident free operation, replete with a blow by blow video assisted description of the entire assembly of the Oak Ridge, Tennessee, thorium reactor.

What's your pleasure, the pernicious propaganda of prehistoric postulants? Or the marshaled facts presented by a number of fact checking, highly credentialed scientists?

We can indoctrinate or educate?

We have time and patience for just one or the other, not both! So, name your preference?

As for the model T, my father 'ad one 'e bought second'and, for twentyfive quid and drove around a million miles in, with little more than routine maintenance! Moving 'ay, 'orses, 'andsome 'ousewives, 'aberdashery; hand hassorted hornements.
Alan B.