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Carter threatens chaos for Obama, Trump and US foreign policy : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/12/2016

Jordan - 78% of former Palestine - originally designated as part of the location for the Jewish National Home - still remains the key to resolving the Jewish-Arab conflict.

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Why bother with this farce, when all that's needed is massive military force and genocide? To take what you want? And happening?

Regardless of any other folks more legitimate claims to the land of their fathers, Grand fathers and Great Grandfathers!

How about we correct the mistake and re-designate that land back to those who occupied it before the war, as bonafide legitimate occupants?

To the victor goes the spoils, is a time worn phase, to essentially legitimise theft! And if the axis powers had won, would you still claim it had legitimacy or the force of law?

I tire of your mendacious disingenuous, broken record (God gave this land to his chosen people) rethoric David!

And urge others to no longer engage in absolutely fruitless endevour, or further waste their valuable time, or see or hear you and your ilk! It's squirrel in a cage stuff that goes nowhere!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:38:18 AM
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Well argued David.

And fortunately Obama has been in his lame duck period since 8 November 2016. In this period a President cannot undertake (by convention) major policy changes. This is especially if the President-Elect (Trump) is from a non-Democrat, opposing/disaggreeing party, that has very pro-Israel policies.

At 92, the only one term President, Jimmy Carter, has little or no legitimacy to set himself up as soothsayer* of the Middle East.

* http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/soothsayer
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 2:55:07 PM
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Off topic. Here's an interesting article: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-in-bid-to-belong-israeli-arabs-sign-up-for-israels-army-2016-12?IR=T

KISUFIM, Israel (Reuters) - A battalion of soldiers crawls across the desert sand with assault rifles cocked. It's a routine exercise, but these are no ordinary troops - they are Arabs who have chosen to fight for the Jewish state.

While the vast majority of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are Jews - and nearly all their conflicts have been against Arab nations - a trickle of Israeli Arabs volunteer for the army.

..."Why did I decide to enlist?" asks Sergeant Yusef Salutta, a 20-year-old Arab from the north of Israel who serves with the Desert Reconnaissance Battalion. The army rarely grants journalists access to the unit.

"Because I'm from this country and I love the country and I want to contribute," he said. "Everyone should enlist, anybody who lives here should enlist."...
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 9:02:52 PM
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Also Off-Topic Here's some equal opportunity surveillance http://intelnews.org/2016/12/08/01-2022/ :

"US, British intelligence agencies spied on Israelis and Palestinians, files show" DECEMBER 8, 2016 BY JOSEPH FITSANAKIS

Documents accessed by a French newspaper show that American and British intelligence agencies worked together to spy on diplomats, academic researchers and defense contractors in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

Last year, the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel and the American newspaper The Wall Street Journal reported that the United States National Security Agency spied on senior Israeli politicians throughout the last decade, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his successor, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Now French daily Le Monde has alleged that the NSA teamed up with its British equivalent, the Government Communications Headquarters to spy on Israeli foreign service officials and diplomats, academic researchers and defense contractors. The newspaper also alleged that British and American spies targeted Palestinian government officials..."

I hope Netanyahu murky interests in submarines were not revealed http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4888846,00.html
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 8 December 2016 5:23:18 PM
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Given the disaster that US foreign policy in the middle east has been and contributed to it's hard to see that breaking a long running foreign policy approach is of itself a terrible thing.

Time for some big changes I think.

I doubt though that trying to leave Trump with a late breaking policy change would stick, I suspect if one president can make the decision the next can reverse it in one way or another. If anything it would potentially put Trump in a position politically which might harden his views rather than soften them, it would be very hard to leave such an obvious move in place for someone so determined to "Win".

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 8 December 2016 6:42:39 PM
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I agree with you R0bert and as I wrote above:

"...fortunately Obama has been in his lame duck period since 8 November 2016. In this period a President cannot undertake (by convention) major policy changes. This is especially if the President-Elect (Trump) is from a non-Democrat, opposing/disaggreeing party, that has very pro-Israel policies.

At 92, the only one term President, Jimmy Carter, has little or no legitimacy to set himself up as soothsayer of the Middle East."

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 9 December 2016 1:48:16 PM
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