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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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Cost? You are kidding right?
If it costs $200 million for all Australians to have a say about their society then so be it... all Australians deserve a say on this issue.

As for more hate speech, come off it what is there is there and it will not get worse than it already is and the fact is most hate speech has been from those supporting SSM... as for people committing suicide due to it... pull the other one just how weak minded do you honestly think gay people are? Do you honestly think they are all delicate little flowers who cant tolerate dissent?

As for the LW Progressive push, well when you put that together with their current agenda re sexual fluidity etc, the view of the future is certainly more different than they claim it will be.
Posted by T800, Monday, 5 December 2016 8:15:31 AM
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Why should voters be given a say on what should be simple legislative change?
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 5 December 2016 8:19:51 AM
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AJ Philips I am right you are a homosexual man because you did not say no or deny it did you. I have not a problem with you beeing a homosexual man, it is because you are a "know it all" person and bacause of that nobody likes you. You think a lot about yourself a very big head they call it, you think you are much clevery than anyone else. You need a long time in the Army of my <former country Albania> and all that "know it all" syuff you have would be lost from you quick smart. But that is not possibly because of you beeing a homosexual man and a very weak man as well. I say I don't have a problem of you beeing a homosexual man, I think it is a sickness and against Gods laws.
Posted by misanthrope, Monday, 5 December 2016 10:49:25 AM
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Seems to me that misanthrope has massive issues with gay people, in particular gay men. To call someone's sexuality a 'sickness', well that's just a 'sick' and pathetic attitude to have.

And A.J is certainly winning the debate as now the rebuttals are in the form of personal insults. A sure sign that the person using them has no argument and arguably intellectually bereft.
Posted by minotaur, Monday, 5 December 2016 11:00:34 AM
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The minotaur was a man headed bull in classical mythology. The sculptor of the Archibald Fountain must have had someone like you in mind, Minotaur, when he depicted it as a bull headed man.
You seem to lack basic education. Why not ascertain what is meant by “definition” and “axiomatic”, and you will understand how ignorant your comments are..
The definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman has stood for millennia, and is not a matter for argument.
Minotaur you say:” the rebuttals are in the form of personal insults. A sure sign that the person using them has no argument “
So when Phillips calls someone a “homophobe” he is losing the argument. He is certainly losing, he has done that more than once.
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 5 December 2016 12:11:15 PM
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//The statement is one of fact, and definition, like the statement that two parallel lines never meet. It is axiomatic, so not open to argument.//

But they do meet, Leo. In elliptic geometry, for any given line l and a point A, which is not on l, all lines through A will intersect l.

//AJ Philips I am right you are a homosexual man because you did not say no or deny it//

When this is the level of reasoning being employed by the anti-SSM mob, it is only a matter of time before it becomes a reality.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 5 December 2016 12:34:25 PM
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