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Palestine: Brexit 1922 key to Trump resolving Arab-Jewish conflict : Comments

By David Singer, published 23/11/2016

Instead of pursuing the misguided notion of

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#billyd

You overlook the fact Jews also fought on our side in WW1

"Two Zionist activists, Joseph Trumpeldor and Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky, were influential in the creation of all-Jewish combat units of the British Army in the First World War. Both directly enabled the foundation of the Zion Mule Corps in 1915, which served in Gallipoli, and Jabotinsky in particular led the drive for the creation of Jewish battalions in the British Army. These battalions - the 38th, 39th and 40th Royal Fusiliers - are collectively known as the Jewish Legion."
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/il%5Egb.html

The Arabs got 99.99% of the conquered Ottoman Empire territories covered by the Mandates for Syria and Lebanon and the Mandate for Mesopotamia - now called Iraq. Not a bad deal in anyone's language.

They claimed they were promised the other 0.01% which was allocated to the Jews but this was was rejected by the Allied Powers.

Nevertheless in 1922 the Arabs were given 78% of that 0.01% - that is today called Jordan.

Still not enough.

They have not stopped claiming the remaining 22% of the 0.01% promised to the Jews that is today called Israel.

If 100 years of demanding an area of land one third the size of Tasmania after being handed the vast area given to them after World War 1 makes any sense to you - it certainly does not to me.

There are 57 Moslem States in the world today including 22 Arab. Yet they still seek to deny the Jews one State in the world unanimously agreed on by the League of Nations and confirmed by the United Nations in article 80 of the UN Charter.

And there are people like you who continue to support such insane Arab demands as Arab States like Syria and Iraq slowly disintegrate before your eyes and millions of innocent Arabs are slaughtered and maimed and flood into Turkey, Jordan and Europe seeking safe haven. Lebanon has become another Arab battleground causing death and wholesale destruction.

The Arabs have indeed made a fine mess of the vast territories landed in their laps after WW1
Posted by david singer, Monday, 28 November 2016 3:57:23 AM
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There is only one openly racist state, proclaimed as a state for a genetically defined population and open for settlement to anyone in the world with the right genetics. Dismantling that state and opening Palestine's doors to all those forcibly exiled from it would lead to a one state solution. This dismantling is what happened tn the racist Republic of South Africa.

In Palestine it could mean that the foreign settlers would end up being subject to Sharia law. Unfortunate, but it couldn't happen to nicer people than the foreign settlers who knowingly stole and brutally held the Palestinian homeland.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 28 November 2016 11:15:42 PM
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#Emperor

You are totally wrong in stating
"There is only one openly racist state, proclaimed as a state for a genetically defined population and open for settlement to anyone in the world with the right genetics"

I take it you are referring to Israel.

How can Israel be a racist state when 20% of its citizens are comprised of Moslem Arabs and Christian Arabs?

Israel has an Arab justice in its Supreme Court, has Arabs serving as Members of Knesset, the armed forces, Arab doctors in its hospitals treating Jewish patients and Jewish doctors treating Arab patients whilst Arab students study alongside Jewish students in its universities. The shopping malls are crowded with Jewish and Arab citizens as are the markets restaurants,trains and buses. Burka clad check out chicks can be found in every supermarket working alongside their Jewish counterparts earning the same rates of pay and enjoying the same conditions.

What would you call Saudi Arabia that allows no Jews or Christians to become citizens and whose constitution declares:

"The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a sovereign Arab Islamic state with Islam as its religion; God's Book and the Sunnah of His Prophet, God's prayers and peace be upon him, are its constitution, Arabic is its language and Riyadh is its capital."

How would you describe Syria with this provision in its Constitution:

"The religion of the President of the Republic is Islam; Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation;"

What about this gem in Iraq's Constitution:

"Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam....

Genetically defined? What is the definition that you rely on to make this claim?

How do black Jews and white Jews, Christians and Moslems who have converted to Judaism come to possess the "right genetics"

Put up or shut up.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 1:00:27 AM
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Mr Singer asks: Genetically defined? What is the definition that you rely on to make this claim?

Ans: Defined at http://www.jewishagency.org/first-steps/program/5131

Theocracy is vile, almost as vile as racism. Mr Singer has listed a heap of theocratic hellholes. Their constitutions are not racist. Even in ratbag countries like Saudi Arabia there is no provision that everyone in the world of the right genetics (Arab?) may go there to occupy Lebensraum.

The status of the much vaunted 20% of inhabitants who have the wrong genetics is eloquently exemplified by the Non-Jewish Israeli Yousef Munayyer, at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/opinion/not-all-israeli-citizens-are-equal.html.

There's a lot to be said for the one-state solution to ensue once the West gives up on wasting its dwindling resources arming racist Israel.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 3:37:57 PM
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So there Mr.Singer. What BS are you going to come up with to reply to that?
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 4:53:26 PM
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#Emperor

The link you cited contains no genetic definition.

What it does include is this statement:

"In 1970, Israel took another historic step by granting automatic citizenship not only to Jews, but also to their non-Jewish children, grandchildren, and spouses, and to the non-Jewish spouses of their children and grandchildren. This addition not only ensured that families would not be broken apart, but also promised a safe haven in Israel for non-Jews subject to persecution because of their Jewish roots."

Rather blows any genetic claim to smithereens - wouldn't you agree?

Yousef Munnayer makes his gripe clear in the first paragraph:
"I’M a Palestinian who was born in the Israeli town of Lod, and thus I am an Israeli citizen. My wife is not; she is a Palestinian from Nablus in the Israeli-occupied West Bank."

Israel does have strict emigration laws to deal with such cases. But so do other countries.
http://www.immigroup.com/marrying-and-sponsoring-vietnamese-citizen

This does not seem to bother you.
Posted by david singer, Friday, 2 December 2016 2:25:38 AM
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