Joe, I just saw a brief bit of Jacinta, but I had to go out. I will watch it on Iview. I got the impression that she knew what she was talking about.
David

Seems to me, from Marcia's figures, a much larger number of aboriginal men should be languishing in jail because of either murder, rape or domestic violence. The reason they are not, is because of the excuse that what they have done is allowed under aboriginal tradition.

David

yes Loudmouth the voice of Jacinta was very refreshing. Of course she was only saying what those 'racist' white guys have been saying for decades. The mythology of leftist academia's revision of history have resisted this truth for a long time. The next elephant in the room to be exposed is the violence done to men by their woman. I know one bloke who was taken to with a hammer and bottle and then ended in prison for not running away. And in the next breath you will have those compaining about high incarcaration rates..

Hi David,

As to "the excuse that what they have done is allowed under aboriginal tradition .... " of course, violence was a cornerstone of traditional culture here, as everywhere else: 'traditional', or 'tribal' societies have few means to punish, or vent anger, but violence. The Glasgow kiss, rural Italian vendetta and Arab feud probably have long histories. Or Pakistani rape-revenge.

Pretty much every account of Aboriginal society, by observers, anthropologists, protectors, etc., as well as independent participants like William Buckley around Geelong, reports relatively huge numbers of violent deaths, often of what we would call innocent bystanders and relations, especially women and children. Perhaps traditionally, the population was only kept up to viable levels by the fact that there was no contraceptives [I'm sure someone will argue with me there].

But these days, there are more ways these days to kill, fewer restraints, more faux reasons to be dreamed up by idle men, and no 'community' cohesion or solidarity to give a toss. So, either way, Jacinta and the other two are right to condemn it, no matter what flimsy excuses might be dragged up for it, or mealy-mouthed support from elite men - as if, somehow, bashing or killing a woman or kid was 'anti-colonialist'. Contemptible rubbish.

The bottom line is surely that, sooner or later, people will either leave such 'communities' if they can, or die there. After forty years of Coombsian Utopia, there seems little likelihood of those 'communities' ever coming together and moving towards genuine self-determination in peace and mutual satisfaction. God, that bird has flown.

But surely the people there, even the men, have the right to long, productive, secure lives just liked other Australians ? The quicker people can get the hell out of those places and find a happy place in Australian society, the better. Like working Aboriginal people in the 'South' have done.

Cheers,

Joe

The Human Rights commission is doomed to failure.
They cannot make the human species become what it is not.
The human species is hardwired by nature.
Weve all seen what human nature is capable of.

All the human rights commission does is make us be kind to every other ethnic group
and country, as they slowly tear us down and take our countrys away from us.
They dont on the other hand, make them accord us the same kindnesses or liberties,
in accepting millions of us into their societys and adjusting their cultural norms to
suit ours.
Also they make us fight with one hand tied behind our backs, having to observe niceties
that cause us to fight a war that could be over quickly, for years on end.