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Debate over Adler shotgun is emotional and ill-informed : Comments
By Brendan O'Reilly, published 24/10/2016Along with most other shooters, however, I also believe that pump action shotguns of up to five rounds magazine capacity should never have been banned.
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<<You claimed that IQ testing of races was not "accurate enough" to measure racial IQ's, because the cognitive metricians had not factored in "environmental conditions" and "different types of intelligences".>>
Where did I say this? I will say, however, that IQ tests don't show a complete picture and are therefore problematic.
<<So, if you accept that IQ testing is "accurate enough" to measure criminal intelligence, then the cognitive metricians must have factored in "environmental conditions" and "different types of intelligence.">>
Not necessarily. What individuals or groups score on tests says nothing about why they scored that? My “accurate enough” referred to cognitive abilities. It said nothing about why such scores are obtained.
You’re really struggling with this, aren’t you?
<<If you have any other explanation as to why you accept that IQ measurement is "accurate enough with criminals IQ's, but not with racial IQ's, then lets hear it.>>
Again, never said that.
<<AJ, you are now rather incredibly claiming that you have always been aware that races have unequal intelligence.>>
I have always acknowledged that they achieve different averages with tests, yes.
<<Gee that's funny. I have been trying to get that through your overly thick head for around 500 pages ...>>
Quotes please.
<<"The Bell Curve" collated 100 years of IQ testing in the USA, and it found that African blacks have lower bell curves of intelligence than whites and Asians.>>
I know. I’ve since read it.
<<Your above statement clearly shows that you think that genes for intelligence [cannot] be shared among entire races of people.>>
Or that it’s very unlikely, given what we currently know, yes.
<<But if you are now saying that different races have different levels of intelligence, then "the Bell Curve" was right.>>
There’s a difference between scores and genetic potential.
<<You have now conceded that races have unequal intelligences. Thank you.>>
Oh, don’t thank me, because it says nothing about how strongly genes play a role on a macro level (if any at all), and that's the issue.