A bit of levity never goes astray:

http://youtu.be/rY-HOYTz-rs

Can a blanket violate the second law of thermodynamics? by Prof Stefan Rahmstorf (Physicist, Oceanographer & a REAL Climate Scientist)

"One of the silliest arguments of climate deniers goes like this: the atmosphere with its greenhouse gases cannot warm the Earth’s surface, because it is colder than the surface. But heat always flows from warm to cold and never vice versa, as stated in the second law of thermodynamics." http://goo.gl/5iE36y

JN/JM: "Hence increased carbon dioxide...will result in more efficient cooling of the earth."

And yet the Earth is warming! Record Global Mean Temps = Logic or BS?

@Bob Fernley-Jones "Dr Marohasy discusses scientific issues and does not discuss politics as far as I’m aware."

Could Bob show me one genuine "scientific issues" article or journal paper that commences with a Conspiracy Theorist Politicians name in the title and then immediate proceeds to criticise Journalists as not being as "clever" as that Politician?

Then concludes with the comment: "This was a point made perhaps too subtlety by Roberts, and clearly not understood by those reporting upon his maiden speech."

Where is the "published peer-reviewed science" in that article? Or the one about Cox http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=18459 or the one about 'bush fires' http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=18490 A Copy paste or a line number would do.

What I have read looks nothing like 'genuine science'. It looks like 'political advocacy' and a denial of known science. Looks like a duck, quacks .... etc.

I believe that Nicol and Marohasy need to consult Julian Cribb AO, from OLO's Editorial Advisory Board.

Sharing Knowledge: A Guide to Effective Science Communication By Tjempaka Hartomo, Julian Cribb http://goo.gl/XeLscj

and
http://goo.gl/gKFDKj
http://www.foodwise.com.au/tag/julian-cribb/
http://goo.gl/OtjyzZ
http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520271234

Ignoring science can become a legal issue when victims of severe climate change events claim damages by Julian Cribb
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/climate-change-litigation-hidden-in-eye-of-the-storm-20131118-2xr9b.html

Writing a popular science article - Science is communicated also to non-specialized audiences, so students need some training on this issue; it is a necessary skill in their professional careers. http://goo.gl/3Zcuzd

Prof Peter Ward UW, on Science Literacy in Universities
http://youtu.be/HP_Fvs48hb4?t=39m47s
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Thomas O'Reilly,

Are you able to explain reason for warmth recorded in the Sea Surface Temperature data that is an anomaly in AGW science?

JFAus, are you able to explain it?

I'm keen to understand this issue better.

It has been stated that Roberts has broken all the laws of thermodynamics; that is, general physics. How is it possible to take him seriously?

Quote from Professor Jones:

"“There is so much wrong in these few sentences that it is almost beyond parody — it turns the Senate Chamber into the theater of the absurd.

Malcolm Roberts broke the first law of thermodynamics, which is the simplest — the conservation of energy — and then broke the rest of them.”"

Reference provided at 19September 9.06 am.

Roberts presents pseudo science, why support him?

@JF Aus, Deja Vu is it?
"Are you able to explain reason for warmth recorded in the Sea Surface Temperature data that is an anomaly in AGW science?"

Yes, but it is much better to find out for yourself. Maybe Prof Cox could help you? He's been doing a science series on TV for weeks now, and in one of those he provides the Physics (Laws) why the Oceans are blue and the sky is blue and how the whole planet looks blue from space.

Seems to be something about how infra-red energy in the visible light spectrum energizes molecules such as H2O. Those two little hydrogen atoms become activated by the infra-red spectrum and start vibrating. The molecule "warms up" iow. And if wasn't for those little suckers of 'ghg' molecules like CO2, CH4, N2SO, and water vapour in the atmosphere absorbing that infra-red spectrum of light before getting out into space that our planet would look 'whitish' instead of blue.

Basic Physics basically. <wink>

To put that another way, if there was no oceans and they were all replaced by say iron ore, and there was no ghg's in the atmosphere, then our little planet would look Red from space, just like Iron ore kinda does. So my tip is go chase Prof Brian Cox, he can tell you all about it.

Meanwhile here is your homework, but you are not allowed to ask me another question for at least 4 weeks. There will be an exam!

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/09/why-greenhouse-gases-heat-the-ocean/

"Beam me up Scotty!"
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/09/what-ocean-heating-reveals-about-global-warming

Google Scholar
http://goo.gl/arU7dc

http://ar5-syr.ipcc.ch/topic_observedchanges.php

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter03_FINAL.pdf

http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploads/WGIIAR5-Chap6_FINAL.pdf

http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploads/WGIIAR5-Chap30_FINAL.pdf

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2014/10/ocean-heat-storage-a-particularly-lousy-policy-target/

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/10/global-warming-and-ocean-heat-content

I was thinking about "think globally, act locally" and wondering why you wouldn't join an environmental group (or the EDO, or Greens) working to reduce runoff into the oceans. All the effort and energy channeled in a positive way might help to actually change something?

I compiled the very latest CSG mining environment studies, sent it off to the NSW Minister, who passed it to the Chief Scientist, who then after reviewing all info, advised serious changes to the Laws, the rest is history. So?
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