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Playing the suicide card : Comments

By David van Gend, published 5/9/2016

It is not in the interest of any teenager - gay, straight, transsexual, or non-sexually identifying – to be told that suicide is a natural reaction to their reality.

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Rob1966

Your a sick puppy....but do you realise how sick?

I once knew a girl that had regular sex with her dog, that's no lie. She often put on a demonstration at the back of the local pub for entertainment, which got plenty of laughs and much applause. She was a sick puppy.

Two sodimists using the anal passage for sex is not natural, and in my world , that gets plenty of laughs likewise. But I don't care personally about that. Like the girl and her dog, it is her business and none of my own?

Where it does become my business, is when you, (unlike the girl and her dog), wish to force your abstract ideas of life onto me, I object strongly!

Answer this question. Why should the State sanction an unnatural act of homosexuality, and include it under the heading of the natural ritual of marriage? In your view!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 5 September 2016 6:47:44 PM
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It is a fact that marriage has always been anathema to homosexuals.

Now we are expected to believe that homosexuals are suiciding because they cannot marry. Say what?!

Nicola Roxon, Penny Wong and other ministers of the Gillard government, including Gillard herself, boasted that having changed scores of legislation the Labor+Greens government had removed all discrimination against homosexuals.

Now we are being told by Labor and Greens that it was all in vain, or more simply, that Gillard, her ministers and her treacherous Greens sidekick Bob Brown all lied when they claimed to have removed all discrimination against homosexuals (and brought homosexual relationships under State direction and control).

Gillard and her anti-family, anti-male and absolutely anti-marriage ministers were by definition no supporters of marriage. In fact, as far left, radical feminists they imagined it was uber 'progressive' to destroy all of those social institutions. They said so too!

Of course, it was different where they could make a buck out of it themselves.

Now, 'progressivism' means 'gay' marriage. Labor and Greens are shameless. Frauds that are devoid of ethics.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 5 September 2016 7:06:41 PM
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@diver Dan ... it's probably escaped your attention but homosexuality is both perfectly legal and natural.

As for the remainder of your ignorant diatribe, I will provide that the response it deserves ..
Posted by rob1966, Monday, 5 September 2016 7:27:06 PM
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@onthebeach ... I am sure there is a point to your rambling comments, although it is somewhat difficult to discern other than you have abjectly filed to substantiate any of the claims you previously made

D-
Posted by rob1966, Monday, 5 September 2016 7:28:45 PM
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It sounds rather pathetic when appeals are made on behalf of young people who have a minority sexuality. Why should they be anymore suicidal than young people who belong to any other minority group?

Every young person has to integrate their sexuality into their personality and identity. It is just part of growing up. Lots of people have to struggle with aspects of who they are and how they fit into society. It is just called maturing. Young Muslims struggle because they are in a minority. Young Christians can likewise struggle. Disabled people have to learn how to live with their disability. People who are non-Caucasian have to fit in if they are in a minority.

Everyone has to fit in somewhere because of something about themselves which puts them in a minority group. Not all of them expect to be treated differently because of their minority status. Indeed part of the process involves asserting your rights to live like everyone else in society. Expecting the society to open up for you just because you belong to some minority group is not the way society works and most people from minorities would not have it any other way.

Kids from minority sexualities have to make their own way in the world. They have to be able to assert their rights and be able to present good strong arguments why they should be able to have what everyone else is entitled to. They should be encouraged to get out and be part of the debate about SSM if that is what they truly want. Retiring into suicidal thoughts is very counterproductive.

If older proponents for SSM begin pleading with the rest of society to 'go easy' on them it destroys their confidence and self-belief. It is telling them that there is something wrong with their minority status which fundamentally means they are not as strong as everyone else. This kind of attitude can lead to depression and suicidal thoughts and has nothing to do with their sexuality but a supposed inherent flaw in their make-up.
Posted by phanto, Monday, 5 September 2016 7:47:26 PM
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Rob1966...

I'm perfectly serious. You either cannot or will not, give one reason for the State to sanction the unnatural act of homosexuality, and include it into the marriage act?

well answer this question; are you homosexual?

I'm asking simple pertinent questions of you. Irrespective of whether you like me or not, these are questions you should be immediately happy to answer!

No, homosexuality is not natural. It may be a natural aberration, but it is not natural to be sexually engaged with the same sex. You are deluded, thus the "sick puppy" call!

Apperantely, by some equally strange logic, if a plebiscite is to go ahead, it will cause homosexual youth to suicide. This will come about it seems, because young homosexuals will be faced with the reality that homosexuality is not universally accepted as normal.

I would like to introduce you to the real world, where that sort of logic is questioned
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 5 September 2016 9:17:59 PM
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