oh dear what are you saying that there is an exceptable level of suicide

I am going to suicide if you don't agree with me or do what I want. No wonder secularism has failed so badly when it feeds the worst of human nature. Idiotic perverted programs like 'safe' schools will produce much more confusion and destruction than those supporting what has been known as marriage for thousands of years.

It takes a particularly callous individual to trivialise and dismiss the mental health welfare of LGBTI citizens, and blatantly ignore the wealth of factual information readily available from professional bodies such as Beyond Blue and Suicide Prevention Australia on the horrific toll homophobic rhetoric has on LGBTI people.

But then the author of this piece has little regard for anything but his mission to ensure LGBTI people are marginalised, demonised and discriminated against. If a few happen to suffer psychological or physicall harm in the process, then so be it.

I doubt the author would be so flippant if it was his own child or family member at risk.

I agree with the sentiments of Rob1966! That said, I believe the author and all his classmates, will never settle for anything other than a plebiscite! Before they accept a majority view, if ever?

We need an end to the stalling prevarication and just get it done this year, lest it become an election issue that sends the liberals (an oxymoron if ever the was one) to the electoral wilderness? Via the very next poll that counts!?
Alan B.

Nicola Roxon, Penny Wong and other ministers of the Gillard government, including Gillard herself boasted that having changed scores of legislation the Labor+Greens government had removed all discrimination against homosexuals.

Were they lying?

Labor had also changed the de facto definition and rules to allow homosexual partners to claim married benefits, which was hugely popular with gay and lesbian public servants and other workers who then claimed spouse superannuation, travel and all other entitlements applicable to married status. As an aside, there has never been any reckoning of the flow-on costs to business and to the taxpayer from that.

There is very little 'discrimination' against homosexuals in Australia or the Western democracies generally. However, if discrimination was in fact a strong contributor to the neuroticism of homosexuals, there should have been a very noticeable drop, for example in Australia, when Rudd and Gillard governments did their wholesale changes to legislation and gays and lesbians accrued all of the married benefits of employment.

However, no such drop has ever been reported. To the contrary, gay pride activists and leftist 'Progressives' aka International Socialists claim the reverse is true, that the incidence of mental health problems and suicide has increased!

It is just as likely that risk takers, who are more disposed towards mental problems, are attracted to the gay lifestyle, and to the experimentation for example with illicit drugs that can lead to an 'interesting'(troublesome) life.

There are other likely causes too, such as the untreated incidence of partner violence among homosexuals and lesbians in particular, who now have additional levers to work on their partners and have the State interfering in their relationships thanks to the de facto law changes by Gillard and her Greens sidekicks.

Why would these obviously fragile people in need of so much protection from Marxist flamers, and so scared of of their fellow Australians, be encouraged to commit suicide by a plebicite that would solve the matter once and for all? This debate has been going on for a long while. There has been none of the "hate speech". There have been no suicides officially attributed to the debate; no cases of self harm (officially). How do these minorities trying to manipulate an entire society come up with this claptrap. They don't have any evidence for their bulldust. They are certainly not helping by suggesting that people wanting SSM, are too meek and useless to take adavantage of a democratic plebicite, which they are are adamant that will be supported by a majority of Australians.

Otb,

I wonder if her fellow comrades called Senator Wong a 'homophobic bigot' 6 years ago when she said that "marriage was between a man and a woman", in accordance with Gillard Labor government policy? Even the Great Gillard could be called the same thing.