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The politics of punishment, and bi-partisan denial : Comments

By Paul Stevenson, published 19/8/2016

For Australia, we need to acknowledge we have a problem in the way we are treating asylum-seekers.

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How much psychological damage did the 1200+ who drowned suffer?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 21 August 2016 1:16:19 PM
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Dear SM,

«How much psychological damage did the 1200+ who drowned suffer?»

More than those who undergo an instantly-fatal car-crash but less than most of us who end up suffering from a rather-long and debilitating terminal illness.

The important thing about it is that their drowning is self-inflicted and/or nature-inflicted, rather than inflicted in my name as their current hijack, incarceration and torture are.

So long as those people have not asked you for asylum, they are not asylum-seekers - they are seafarers who are kidnapped by Australian pirates, supposedly in my name.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 21 August 2016 1:36:03 PM
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You're right o0f course Yuyutsu. Until they ask for asylum they are an invasion force, & should be treated as such.

Instead of being picked up by the navy, they should be treated as any other invasion force, & blown out of the water.

This would be cheaper, stop the flow very quickly, & mean we no longer had a need fre detention centres.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 22 August 2016 9:37:40 AM
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Before I commence, I should declare two interests - together with Paul I am a member of the Australian Democrats (Queensland Division) Incorporated, and together with Paul I am also a member of the United Nations Association of Australia, Queensland Division. I should also declare that I know Paul personally, and assisted with the editing of the article. With those disclaimers out of the way, I agree with many of the above comments to the effect that the issues of asylum and migration are complex ethical issues. I've published two essays which touch on this issue. See links below. These may be of interest (for the first, you may need to search-engine the title to access):

Fixing global governance (2015): https://e-publications.une.edu.au/vital/access/manager/Repository/une:18764

Security, inclusiveness, and Australian refugee policy (20014): http://eprints.qut.edu.au/3645/
Posted by Dr James Page, Monday, 22 August 2016 11:08:06 AM
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You're right of course Hasbeen.

Blowing those people out of the water would be more humane than the way they are currently treated by the former invaders of this continent.
At least it would be more honest and show the true face and nature of that gang which now controls by force the whole of this continent and its good people.

This is God's land, we are all but guests here and no man or a group of people have a right to declare exclusive ownership over it.

Your ancestors also came by boat, uninvited!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 22 August 2016 1:30:40 PM
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You're right again Yuyutsu, a long time ago, & the population when we came was too damn weak to defend the place, so lost it. This is the history of most countries after all.

We are quite strong enough to defend the place against this invasion, but lack the guts to do what should be done.

If you want to believe in some god, good for you, but don't expect intelligent people to do so. The only beings in control of Australia should be us, if we had the guts. As we don't, I expect we will lose it, just as the last lot did.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 22 August 2016 11:47:42 PM
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