JF Aus

Taking temperature where there is algae, does not mean that algal growth has been the cause of warmth.

Are there algal blooms in the atmosphere, JF Aus?
If not, what is your explanation for radiated infrared forcing in the atmosphere?

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/aggi.html

The table at the bottom of the article provides the level of forcing for a number of greenhouse gases. It is measured in watts per square metre, the measure for CO2 in 2015 was 1.939 W/Sq M, for all green house gases it was 2.974 W/Sq M.

Paper that backs up forcing in the atmosphere:

http://www.nature.com/articles/nature14240.epdf?referrer_access_token=bjuEJ63ymUk1yz9-Sx7uv9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0MBUVHxgrRxcZhDCgss_A2aMRa8sFLO_Zqgdcoim1aBJ-ppgkwzC_X-LI_texKSoCxo8v99tBOdaXByc5w2vfUK6bQEvtZxBNKZCgRy1HIyrxTY_hAOl32yqeVv0D3PtJ4vbpvRlLZDhvLKrioDpSzGrLyRJaeQRsN5ONzqOxHEEmW5HA3RGBDDVjgPzDqGVcF4Fnq2RlZC6TONg2ccTYfeEliAQYz0GU2j8BvX9qq5-Q%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.theguardian.com

Astro Physicists writes about how irrational man created climate change deniers are:

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/07/26/487457043/the-remarkable-inconsistency-of-climate-denial?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

A geologist spruiks Ian Plimer's view on Earth requiring a mantle of greenhouse gases, and makes interesting comments about boreholes providing useful data. A further illustration that a thermometer is unnecessary in showing an increase in temperature:

http://theconversation.com/our-planet-is-heating-the-empirical-evidence-6399

ant,

Empirical evidence of substance indicates the following (to me at least):

Wind comes in contact with surface waters of oceans and lakes and temperature of that wind is influenced by temperature of that water.
Sometimes that wind is warmed due to algae associated warmth in that water, sometimes wind is cooled due to impact of algae.
There is more I could say but not space and time to write it this morning.

I don't believe I am a climate change denier. I think anthropogenic change in climate is occurring regionally but not globally at the same time.

I suggest carefully consider this.
Cloud can be seen forming above visible and known algae and algae inundated waters. Thanks to NASA.

I cannot understand how radiative forcing causes cloud and storms to form in one region and not all regions of the globe at the same.

Kudos to ant, Max Green, Robert LePage, Toni Lavis, Aidan, SteeleRedux, Peter King, Bugsy, Andras Smith, Luciferase, Cobber the hound, John Ryan, & Alan B. for their contributions.

(imo) What the future holds for Climate Change Politics globally is more of the following:

The US has joined China to formally ratify the Paris agreement.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/sep/03/g20-summit-obama-to-make-climate-change-announcement-as-may-heads-to-china-live

Forecast the Facts becomes ClimateTruth.org in 2015 http://climatetruth.org/about/
eg ClimateTruth.org worked with a coalition of organizations to call on AARP [ http://www.aarp.org ] to leave the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), an extreme right-wing group that lobbies against the interests of seniors and blocks climate action. AARP quickly announced that they will not be renewing their membership! http://climatetruth.org/campaigns/

Netherlands Court Case
http://www.urgenda.nl/en/climate-case/
http://theconversation.com/what-does-the-dutch-court-ruling-on-climate-targets-mean-for-australia-43841
http://theconversation.com/dutch-courts-climate-ruling-may-force-other-states-to-cut-emissions-or-else-43882

Landmark Oregon Federal US Court Case begins Sept 13th
http://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/us/federal-lawsuit/
Global Legal Actions
http://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/global-legal-actions/

The IPA, Malcolm Roberts, Marohasy and all the others who sew discord and disinformation about Climate Science have as much chance of succeeding as the anti-equality anti-constitution white racists had against School Desegregation in the 1960s USA. None!

Meanwhile living in the real world is Shri Piyush Goyal Minister of State with Independent Charge for Power, Coal, New & Renewable Energy and Mines in the Government of India. “Large Scale Integration of Renewable Energy” April 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uURYQSsAN_8 (35 mins)

@25mins just 3 mins! “What the West is doing … is anti-development and anti the fight against climate change… affordable energy access for all the people of the world” http://youtu.be/uURYQSsAN_8?t=25m6s

The India Report http://powermin.nic.in/sites/default/files/uploads/Final_Consolidated_Report_RE_Technical_Committee.pdf

Plus the Global Future will include NPP Electricity to power transport, desalination, industry and more.
eg SA Nuclear Fuel Cycle Royal Commission Report
http://yoursay.sa.gov.au/pages/nuclear-fuel-cycle-royal-commission-report-release/

August 2016: China-U.S. cooperation to advance nuclear power. Science Mag, 353,
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6299/547.full?ijkey=7.4C0Yg90r8G.&keytype=ref&siteid=sci

Nukes WITH Renewable Energy and Safer Environmental standards globally
http://www.china-brain.com/Resources/China–the-Green-Energy-Superpower/229.html
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032116300600
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_India
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/06/30/world-bank-india-sign-deal-to-boost-solar-globally
http://cleantechnica.com/2016/06/13/india-secures-2-5-billion-debt-funding-rooftop-solar-power-projects/
http://mnre.gov.in/schemes/decentralized-systems/solar-cities/
http://www.makeinindia.com/sector/renewable-energy

Eventually this is where the planet will end up (absent war) ie almost sane but reasonable and practical at the end of the day.

Australia will get there too, well, eventually.

The Climate Change Authority report: a dissenting view
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-05/hamilton-karoly-minority-report-climate-change-authority/7813638

Climate Change Authority Special Review: Minority Report
http://www.climatecouncil.org.au/cca-minority-report
vs
http://climatechangeauthority.gov.au/reviews/special-review/towards-climate-policy-toolkit-special-review-australias-climate-goals-and
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JF AUS: MORE ALGAE = LOWER TEMPS!

Here's what the ACTUAL science says:

“Since 1993, thirteen international research teams have COMPLETED ocean trials demonstrating that phytoplankton blooms can be stimulated by iron addition.”
http://ebme.marine.rutgers.edu/HistoryEarthSystems/HistEarthSystems_Fall2008/Week8b/Boyd_et_al_Science_2007.pdf

Not enough? Mt Pinatubo spewed “40,000 tons of iron dust into the oceans worldwide. This single fertilization event generated an easily observed global decline in atmospheric CO2 and a parallel pulsed increase in oxygen levels.”
goo.gl/RLY6Ij

Not enough? Here's the peer-reviewed result from the ocean fertilisation experts:

“The maximum possible result from iron fertilization, assuming the most favourable conditions and disregarding practical considerations, is 0.29W/m2 of globally averaged negative forcing,[33] which is almost sufficient to reverse the warming effect of about 1/6 of current levels of anthropogenic CO2 emissions.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization#Science

That’s sad. I was starting to get excited that algae might be a silver bullet, but at least it's something in our arsenal to more gradually reduce CO2. (Spreading olivine around to soak up CO2 might even be cheaper, but that's another topic).

The bottom line is this.

MORE ALGAE = LESS CO2 = LOWER TEMPERATURES.

At least according to real science.

Have a nice day.

Max Green,

If more algae = less heat in your CO2 belief then why is sea ice melting faster and more than normal in the algae inundated Bering Sea?

Ocean food web ecosystem's cannot tolerate the algae impacting them already.
Have your CO2 belief iron experts shown how they will keep their fertilization out of the natural food web ecosystems?

Can anyone provide scientific evidence algae does not help to heat the BIQ building in Germany?

Siberian Arctic Sea Loss Aug 2 to Sept 2 (giff)
http://neven1.typepad.com/.a/6a0133f03a1e37970b01bb0932601e970d-pi

Latest Arctic Sea Ice Extent Satellite Image 2nd Sept 2016
http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de:8084/amsr2/Arctic_AMSR2_nic.png

from
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2016/09/piomas-september-2016.html
and
http://nsidc.org/

My new song:

What's BOM got to do, got to do with it?
What's BOM but a second hand distraction?
What's BOM got to do, got to do with it?
Who needs a brain when a mind can be broken?
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Anyone heard of the US earthquake swarms most likely caused by Fracking?
Jan 2016
http://www2.usgs.gov/blogs/features/usgs_top_story/man-made-earthquakes/
June 2016
http://www.desmogblog.com/2015/06/23/new-research-confirms-earthquake-swarms-caused-oil-and-gas-industry

What about the massive shift in upper atmosphere winds? No?
A 60-year pattern in the stratosphere changes up
Date:
September 2, 2016
Source:
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Summary:
High above Earth's tropics, a pattern of winds changed recently in a way that scientists had never seen in more than 60 years of consistent measurements.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160902142132.htm

It's called science folks.

Now back to the Fin.Review.