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Refugee trauma on Nauru: the leaked incident reports : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 11/8/2016

Human sensibility has been given another sound beating with the leak of 2,116 incident reports from Australia's remorseless detention camp on Nauru.

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Once again, Binoy Kampfmark displays his unfitness to be called "an Australian" by his constant advocacy of the rights of foreigners over the rights of Australians.

"Refugees" are not trying to enter African countries, Asian countries, Muslim countries, or South American countries. Quite the reverse. Africans, Asians, Muslims, and South Americans all want to live in white countries. I think that says a lot for the white race and our ability to create functioning and desirable societies. But the more Africans, Asians, Muslims, and south Americans who come to white societies, them more white societies will become more like dysfunctional African, Asian, Muslim, and South American countries.

The ghettoization of white societies into crime and welfare dependent ethnic enclaves seems to validate that.

It was said of socialism that it's purpose was not to make everybody equally rich, but to make everybody equally poor. The same can be said of Multiculturalism. we can't have white societies being held up as the only decent countries to live in, so let's trash their societies with ever more waves of dysfunctional people who will make every society on earth equally dysfunctional.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 11 August 2016 8:08:06 AM
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If anyone was thinking till now that the Australian government cared about anyone's dignity and welfare or kept to any morals - think again!

Today you are lucky - but it will not last forever. Tomorrow you too could find yourself crunched in the system and even if it doesn't happen to you in this lifetime - it could just as well be your fate in the next: you are not immune from being born in Nauru, or whatever other dreadful place will be used by the Australian or other governments at the time. If you support the Australian government - your guilty conscience will take you there.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 11 August 2016 8:57:55 AM
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Look, the only reason that the Nazi death camps were even possible was the inherent secrecy and BS propaganda that presented them as virtual holiday camps run by inherently humane Officials!

The only reason we know what really happened was the almost flawless Nazi records and some of the documentaries General Eisenhower insisted on, given without them, nobody would believe what went on!

And underlines the need for transparency and the fearless reporting it would make possible? If that doesn't suit a few inherently nasty Nauruans or point scoring blame shifting, more pious than the pope, politicians? Tough!

As history proves beyond question, the only time perpetually prevaricating politicians need secrecy, is when there's something to hide?

That said in no way should we can ever resettle any of these irregular arrivals in Australia or New Zealand, given the latter would only ever serve as a conduit that would allow the people smugglers to present a new business model? And restart the boats, along with the transition camps that are also part of a larger regional problem!

WE WILL DECIDE WHO COMES HERE AND THE MANNER OF THEIR ARRIVAL!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 11 August 2016 11:36:01 AM
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The quoted asylum seeker doesn't have to kill himself to get to Australia (he would be buried in Nauru if he did kill himself) and he does NOT have to get to Australia at all. He has not been invited here, and he is not wanted here. He new full well that he would never be settled in Australia, that he was an illegal arrival. He knew that he was sent to Nauru, because off-shore detention is the rule for illegal boat arrivals. The fellow must be as thick as a brick.

Nauru contracted to take these illegal boat people (for a very considerable sum) until they were found to be refugees (or not); to resettle them in Nauru, or house them until another country agreed to take them. Nauru reneged on the contract but, stiff cheese, it is still their problem.

Illegals sick of waiting (bless them) have elected to return to their countries of origin - which shows how much 'danger' they really faced in their home countries! The rest can do the same or stay in Nauru. Australia should wash its hands of the whole farce, and never again try to do business with backward countries.

I strongly agree with Lego's description of the writer of this pap, who is a malcontent trouble maker, best suited to some other place of abode,
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 11 August 2016 11:50:56 AM
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and as for the thousands in camps wanting to come here legally? Oh thats right in some them the Muslims won't even allow others in the camps.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 August 2016 12:20:34 PM
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Simply fact letting them come to Australia would be opening the flood gates to more and more and more coming here.

Dudd and Dillard did that and over 50,000 plus we are still paying for.

Merkel did that to Germany and look at the mess they are in.

Anyone advocating bringing in more refugees not genuine ones but the welfare for lifers and non integrators should be forced to accommodate some in their homes and feed and support them, that will change their minds.

Quote from one "If I am made to have my baby on Nauru, I will have a baby in my tent and kill myself and my baby." That is an attempt to manipulate public opinion in her favor, $10 says she did not carry out that threat.

They are well versed by the advocates and do gooders how to manipulate the gullible media who are desperate for a sensational story.
Just go through your newspapers etc and see what dribble they are coming out with nowadays, borders on a waste of time reading.

Follow the link to see 1 month of sexually orientated crimes by migrants in Sweden alone, this is what opening the floodgates could bring.

Approx quarter way down the page see Appendix.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 11 August 2016 1:08:24 PM
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A quote from the article:“ May it continue to spring more over time, eventually stunning an otherwise indifferent public to indignant reaction.”
This is a perfect demonstration of the mentality of Binoy Kampmark.
He looks forward to obtaining more material illegally upon which to base his pointless and disingenuous whining. It is not clear how a “stunned public” can be expected to “react”, but , I am fortunate in being unable to relate to Binoy”s weird thought processes.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 11 August 2016 1:36:12 PM
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Binoy - The illegal boat people - clients of people smugglers – reportedly paid $5K-10K per head to board a leaky boat attempting to arrive on Australian shores, knowing full well they would not be permitted entry into Australia.

This action was illegal in the first place, under Labor’s watch 50,000 came with 1,200 souls dying at sea, passports including any identifying documents being tossed overboard on the way over, but oh no – not that mobile phone – and we all know the reason that mobile phone wasn’t thrown overboard now don’t we?

Australia Government and agencies determine qualification of persons for settlement in Australia – not the criminal trade of people smugglers, queue jumpers.

The Australian – 24 October 2015 – “Safe haven at Nauru may become home for refugees. Nauru’s President has raised the likelihood that refugees could be permanently settled on the island, in a clear sign of the deepening relations between asylum-seekers and their hosts.

Refugees have established small businesss and are working as community liaison officers, security guards and even, like 19 year old Shahzab Ansar from Pakistan, as a personal assistant to the Justice Secretary.

Mr Adeang, who overseas the refugee program in Nauru, says tensions on the island are linked to refugees failing to accept that Australia is no longer a settlement option. “Once that sinks in then they have to appreciate that it’s either Nauru or Cambodia at this time,” he says.” (End edited article)

Last year also we saw pictures and read articles of children frolicking in the sea, mixing with other island children and attending school on Nauru? Binoy would you care to respond to this report of kids being kids and playing happily together?
...continued
Posted by SAINTS, Thursday, 11 August 2016 6:03:28 PM
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...continued

Daily Telegraph May 21, 2016 – “Sabotage at Nauru Clinic” – The $26 million Nauru Medical Centre upgrade, funded by Australian taxpayers so sick asylum seekers don’t need to be sent offshore has been sabotaged just weeks after opening.

A brand new $900,000 CAT scanner has been left useless after thieves stole the modem needed to make it work.

Someone also used a ladder to climb into an air conditioning duct and pulled out cords, meaning windows now have to be left open to provide relief from the heat and creating more of a security risk of further expensive equipment being stolen.” (End of article)

Great show of respect for taxpayers' dollars.

Binoy – 2016 Senate Estimates Reports on Border Protection and Finance Committee provided much information as to current reasons why persons are still on Nauru. Have you bothered to read any transcripts?

My information is not based on any alleged “leaked documents”. My facts provided in previous OLO discussions gained from viewing actual Senate Estimates Committee meetings from Parliament, available to public should one care to view and gain “the actual facts”.
Posted by SAINTS, Thursday, 11 August 2016 6:05:25 PM
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NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH.

You will notice that Phillip S has now posted an article on this topic that is anti immigrant. Congratulations people. We as a group have finally converted a trenchant trendy lefty to the cause of Australian nationalism. Cold hard facts finally trumped Phillip S's child like belief in socialist humanitarianism.

And well done, Philip S. If you can finally think straight on immigration,perhaps you will be able to think straight on racism, Israel, Islam, and a host of other "right wing" subjects.

You made my day.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 12 August 2016 5:58:56 AM
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LEGO = Seems you get amused by facts which are real, you appear to take delight in the pain that would have been suffered by all the victims of those crimes, all this to sensationalize your small diatribe of a contribution to this thread.

If your day is made on the pain and suffering of other people you need to get help.

I would have only included the relevant only parts but it is 21,694 characters or 3,161 words in length.

I drew attention to the statistics not the article as a whole, before political decisions are made all relevant factor that may have an effect on the outcome of that decision should be taken into account.

So taking into account the historic behavior criminal etc of migrants would need to be factored in.

That many crimes in a one month period in a small country like Sweden should be concerning to anyone who considers open borders and mass migration of people who do not want to assimilate with the host country to be a good thing.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 12 August 2016 9:18:13 AM
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Dont care. It is a Labor/Green problem. They did it.
Posted by McCackie, Monday, 15 August 2016 3:34:36 PM
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So - finally some truth. Sky News – Abuse Claims “Wrong. 16/8/2016

Quote – “The Nauru government has accused refugees and asylum seekers of fabricating abuse claims in order to get to Australia.

Following 2000 incident reports being leaked to the Guardian Australia, the Nauru government has cast doubt over abuse allegations.

‘Aust left wing media, greens MPs and advocates still using refugees as pawns for their political agendas. Very sad’. The Nauru government’s official Twitter account tweeted.

‘Most refugee advocate claims on Nauru fabricated to achieve goal to get to Aust. So called ‘reports’ based solely on these claims #fact.’

Last week, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton made a similar argument, saying he was aware of cases where sexual abuse had been made up because people wanted resettlement on the mainland.

There are currently 466 asylum seekers held at Nauru centre and about 900 refugees living in Nauru community." (End of quote)
Posted by SAINTS, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 5:42:38 PM
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