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The Northern Territory, torture, and Australia's detention disease : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 28/7/2016

It was an image that would not have been out of place in the sickly procession of pictures that came out of Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo Bay.

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G'day there JAYB...

Despite what it is you now claim, by drawing attention to this young fellow's criminal antecedents, mostly involving violence. There are many of those who are infinitely more academically qualified than us, who claim intensive counselling, behaviour modification, adjustment and later refinement, are essentially all this young lad really needs. For him to awaken from his ruinous reverie and become conscious of how destructive his behaviour has been in the last six or seven years.

JAYB it's all pretty simple now it's been explained ? So all the occurrences I've witnessed in the past 32 years as a copper, concerning this type of highly resistive violence coming from youths from this precise demographic. Fundamentally pretty well went unresolved, purely because we didn't follow that sage advice given us from the noisy academic cadre !

Will our political elite ever come to realise some kids are simply born bad, if not bad at birth, become so as a result of atrocious parenting. I've not seen the video in question, but it's my understanding he's an aboriginal, that in some cases, puts the poor bugger behind the eight ball. Mate I dunno, I really don't.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 4 August 2016 2:47:15 PM
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OSW: become so as a result of atrocious parenting.

Of that I have no doubt. The following may explain that;

Dylan, bashed Mc Ally with a fire extinguisher causing blindness in one eye and requiring an airlift to Darwin for emergency surgery.

Gerald Tasker from O'Brien's security was the one who secured him in that chair after that incident as the ambulance officers needed the area secure to remove Andrew.

Dylan's mum saw $$$ and sued with no success. She is an expert at working the system. In the lead up to the story being aired, she applied for restraining orders on all the people who know her kid personally.

After she lost, a human rights organisation from Melbourne offered to take on the case after promising her a big cash payout when they win.
Anticipating a big pay day she has bought a new car ($60k) not bad for a dole bludger who hasn't ever worked.

They lost the case last month so the previously restricted footage has been released.

The ABC omitted the context that explains why he was restrained. Voller has been in and out of detention centre's since he was 11. A court was told he’d attacked his mother and had committed more than 50 offences so far, many violent.

Voller’s record , showing a pattern of violence from the start
and for at least seven years now. Moreover, many of his attacks were on police and public servants trying to deal with him:

Again, why did the ABC misrepresent the truth and omit important context?

From the Australian today.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 4 August 2016 3:50:16 PM
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Thank you jayb for the information. People who want to talk about this issue need to understand exactly what the prison was dealing with, before commenting about their policies.

I would also recommend the Vita report. It did identify problems, including poor record keeping and training and the lack of an evidence based intervention to manage traumatised kids. I would rather they spend the budget of the royal commission on implementing their recommendations before having another inquiry.

It might not eliminate the need for solitary confinement and the chair and it might not be enough to help Dylan Voller, given the depth of his issues. However it might help less damaged kids.
Posted by benk, Thursday, 4 August 2016 6:32:16 PM
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Hi (again) JAYB...

I forgot to mention when young Dylan VOLLER hit's real boob, his irascible and cantankerous behaviour will not be tolerated for a second. He'll either come asunder from one of the Officers, or worse annoy another crim, who will not be nearly as charitable as those in the Youth Detention Centre. The boy has much to learn ?
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 4 August 2016 8:25:35 PM
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Q: "Again, why did the ABC misrepresent the truth and omit important context?"

A: Because of its privileged position and because it could.

Next,

Q: Why did the ABC's own Media Watch not only not see any problems in the ABC's report, but shamelessly buffed the ABC up for what was a shabby report?

A: Because it was the ABC reviewing the ABC, why expect anything different?
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 4 August 2016 9:58:21 PM
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