' I reckon there's a million police and prison officers (many married with children) out there, who would really like to be told and taught a better way of dealing with these violent (young) individuals ! '

you are so right o sung wu. I have been worked in and been surrounded by law enforcement officers most of my life and what you say is so true. On the other hand their are a million activist, media and legal profession waiting to cash in on these violent offenders.

Aidan,

Fair enough. You have your opinion and I have mine, which includes the belief that some individuals are beyond redemption and need to be separated from the rest of us.

Hi there RUNNER...

As you correctly imply it's so easy to condemn and criticise problems within our society. But it's the solution to those problems that seem to evade even the best of us ? I wouldn't mind a bit, if these activists, and the many media and legal people, who seem to take great delight in loudly condemning those few who are trying so hard to do such an almost impossible job. If they could only identify a better method in which to undertake such a onerous task. If so, I'd happily applaud them for what amounts to be, exceptionally brilliant work !

Cobber,

Although I've agreed with you, generally, perhaps only twice, I think you have come out pretty well from an unfortunate childhood. I admire and respect you for that. Further, you and many like you are proof positive that the 'poor boys had a terrible childhood' from the sob sisters is total BS as an alibi for the little rotters. Pity about your political views:)

Good onya

ttbn,

Even if there are some people beyond redempton, it's certain that not everyone who you expect to be beyond redemption really is.

ttbn,

The link between adverse childhood experiences and offending has been well established over many decades of research. That a small portion of people in the risk category manage to buck the trend is evidence of nothing.