look the answer is easy all those bleeding hearts, quit their jobs, and become guards at we will all see how long it takes before they are using the spit hood.

Part of the problem is culture? Culture that sees property as community property and yours if you're cheeky enough to confiscate it? People are over having their cars stolen by joy riders and smashed or burnt before they're recovered? And folk are also over the break ins and petty theft?

That said, a hungry and all but abandoned kid, left almost entirely to his own devices will steal a candy bar or almost anything able to be slipped into a convenient pocket? These kids are the kids we see in lord of the flies? And need a very different rehabilitation and reeducation model to turn them into model citizens, future doctors, lawyers and law enforcement officers? My approach would be a boot camp, walkabout and taught bush tucker survival skills?

And modeled on some of the tough love simple reward based examples seen elsewhere? Where some treasured by kids rewards are earned through being a model citizen and giving a helping hand to the new chum? Walkabouts would likely need to be conducted in fairly unforgiving country that makes cooperation essential for survival, comfort and EARNED reward?

Reward can include things like access to a swimming pool football boots and a footy or a roast dinner? It's not hard but requires patience perseverance and a team approach that enables a firm hand on the tiller at all times! And is accompanied by warnings like, if you think I'm tough, wait until Moriarty takes you on a fifty mile forced march!

It is tough love and needs to be dispensed by folks who mean what they say and say what they mean and all and any reward has to be earned and deserved! And when that is the case accompanied by lavish praise in front of their peers so that they learn a different and better way! And need to stay the course until it is thoroughly inculcated as a replacement behavior model!

Violence was never the answer given violence only ever begets more violence! We need a thorough cleanout of officialdom up there and replace them with adults!
Alan B.

There is no "dentention disease"; there is a young hoodlum disease. Cobber the Hound has a good suggestion for the "bleeding hearts",

ttbn,

"There is no 'dentention disease'"
Yes there is. Detaining people in cruel conditions causes more problems than it solves. This doesn't mean crime shouldn't be dealt with — of course it should, and in many cases detention should be part of the solution. But we must improve the cnditions in the prisons, and recognise that merely locking people up is not the answer, and cruel conditions are never justified.

As for Cobber's uncharacteristically batty suggestion, having unsuitable people working as screws is part of the problem.

I don't know why they don't just put these rebellious incarcerated into solitary confinement. Isolation can make one reflect on why or what they may or may not have done to justify their treatment...

Keeps the staff in a "hands off" scenario so unlikely that accusations or video footage of torture will simply not happen in the first place.

Dear Cobbler the Hound.

They don't use spit hoods in NSW and Vic and only a modified form in WA. Proper training and proper equipment is a no brainer. Why instead do you seem to be insisting they continue to be used in the NT without criticism?

Long time readers might be surprised by my response to the two articles today. It can be explained by my up bringing.
I was brought up in a disadvantaged household and alcoholic father and a battered mother. We lived in women shelters and all sorts in my early childhood i even spent time in state care.
It is a reason that drives my belief that we should create opportunity for all children no matter what their back ground. But I do not except and never will that children don't learn right and wrong even if your parents don't teach you, you know.

I'm pretty well over people making excuses for other peoples bad behavior. Every day you make a personal choice about how you choose to behavior.

This kid got the spit hood on him because he was spitting on people, if he wasn't doing ti then he wouldn't be wearing it. Now instead of asking the question what wrong with this kid, we see people asking whats wrong with the guards!

As I said anyone disturbed by the use of the spit hood can apply to become a guard (their always recruiting) and see how they go.

One last thing i'm sure there will be some mileage about his Aboriginality as well. All I'll say is tribal payback would be much harsher then White man's law so perhaps we should give that go.

There is nothing wrong with solitary confinement, its better to do this than to initiate other forms of behavioral reform. At least the individual wont' suffer physical harm from others. How long to put them in solitary confinement? I don't know, I'm no expert on human behavior, and psychologists are only half way there too.

Cobber:
Thoroughly traumatised kids will respond to continued cruelty, with behavioral problems that can only ever be exacerbated with more of the same! And I witnessed in the first person, far too much of this in the orphanages and foster homes of my formative childhood! Where routine daily whippings would only cease with preventative exhaustion!

Kids learn what they live and then pass on, unless moderated by inquisitorial intelligence and a better way?
Alan B.

Vocationally I've had a need to 'handle' some of these thirteen to eighteen years old youths, of both sexes, and I can tell you quite unequivocally how jolly hard some of them are, to both restrain and move/remove them, with a minimum amount of physical force. Weight of numbers alone, sometimes makes it even more difficult. Ideally, three would be the maximum in my opinion, in order to reduce any injury to the youth, or the staff charged with 'handling' him.

Spitting, kicking, punching, gouging, plus language of a kind, that's so bad it's capable of peeling paint, are quite typical behaviour with some of these 'kids'. I'm pretty big, and an ex professional pug, and it doesn't matter a fig when attempting to 'control' excessively violent children, with minimum force.

However, when a TV Programme is aired, showing youths being subjected to chemical agents, restrained to a chair, with a spitting mask fitted; it looks really dreadful, a throw back to the dark days of the late 1890's in London's infamous 'Bedlem' Lunatic Asylum. But what else can the authorities do ? After all they have a common law duty of care, to the young person. What about more and better training, opines STEELEREDUX, sure a good idea; but what type of training, and who has the 'uniquely specialised' skills to teach it ?

Anyway along comes this well intentioned academic, Mr Binoy KAMPARK of the RMIT (Melbourne) condemning as is his right, what he sees. But like all academics roundly condemns what's happening;...but offers NO bloody solution ! Anyone one of us can loudly condemn any situation, and that's all and good.

But what's the 'SOLUTION'; that's the most important issue of all ?

I reckon there's a million police and prison officers (many married with children) out there, who would really like to be told and taught a better way of dealing with these violent (young) individuals !

This unisolated event is not a problem to most Australians. It is an Aboriginal problem. Wayward children are a phenomena in developing countries, and in Brazil it is estimated that street urchins number between seven and eight million. (There), those children have the status of a cockroach, or a plague rat!
What this event really unearths is a mindset between first world thinking, and the third world living conditions of much of Aboriginal populations in Australia.
What the royal commission should be focused on, is the wasted money thrown at the perceived problem of Aboriginals living under third world conditions in Australia.
I think Alan B's perception of a solution is close to workable. It is a simple strategy to train children in a direction which improves their chances of success in a future adult life.
Where the issue lies, is the expectation that children growing up in third world conditions will actually recognise their own condition, and be desirous of adjusting to the offer to join White Mans first world concept of society! Won't happen, and why should it happen?
This event only highlights the failure of Aboriginal communities to grasp the problem. Obviously Aboriginas have lost the desire to respond to help offered, through Government funding, designed to improve their condition, and assist in the integration of their culture into the first world culture of fellow Australians.
They must recognise, and take responsibility for unacceptable law and order issues which are a direct result of their own actions. Recognise that antisocial behaviour will not be tolerated in the general community, and deal with their own issues. Learn to help themselves, in a nutshell!

The videos showed a complete lack of professionalism by the staff.

One video showed a staff member wearing thongs, and I don't know too many jobs where the worker is allowed to wear thongs.

This lack of professionalism indicates a lack of training and a lack of standards, and the results were the mistreatment of the children.

The videos also showed what a government can do to people, and if someone wants a country run by increasingly corrupt political parties that have no real connection to the public, they watch the videos.

' I reckon there's a million police and prison officers (many married with children) out there, who would really like to be told and taught a better way of dealing with these violent (young) individuals ! '

you are so right o sung wu. I have been worked in and been surrounded by law enforcement officers most of my life and what you say is so true. On the other hand their are a million activist, media and legal profession waiting to cash in on these violent offenders.

Aidan,

Fair enough. You have your opinion and I have mine, which includes the belief that some individuals are beyond redemption and need to be separated from the rest of us.

Hi there RUNNER...

As you correctly imply it's so easy to condemn and criticise problems within our society. But it's the solution to those problems that seem to evade even the best of us ? I wouldn't mind a bit, if these activists, and the many media and legal people, who seem to take great delight in loudly condemning those few who are trying so hard to do such an almost impossible job. If they could only identify a better method in which to undertake such a onerous task. If so, I'd happily applaud them for what amounts to be, exceptionally brilliant work !

Cobber,

Although I've agreed with you, generally, perhaps only twice, I think you have come out pretty well from an unfortunate childhood. I admire and respect you for that. Further, you and many like you are proof positive that the 'poor boys had a terrible childhood' from the sob sisters is total BS as an alibi for the little rotters. Pity about your political views:)

Good onya

ttbn,

Even if there are some people beyond redempton, it's certain that not everyone who you expect to be beyond redemption really is.

ttbn,

The link between adverse childhood experiences and offending has been well established over many decades of research. That a small portion of people in the risk category manage to buck the trend is evidence of nothing.

I agree with o sung wu's view that there is no easy way to handle this type of teenager. Seeing the use of tear gas may make us uncomfortable, but no one was injured. There were no soft surfaces to tackle the teenager into. If the guards had to manhandle him, someone could easily have gotten hurt. Those wanting tear gas banned need to own the consequences.

Aiden might be right when he claims that the wrong people were employed. If so, governments need to ask if prisons are struggling to recruit or struggling to retain staff. Are they paid enough? Are they all quitting for the same reason? Alternatively, the staff might be decent people who are pushed too far. Four corners didn't want to tell us what happened before the guards lost their temper and it might put their behaviour in another context.

Dear o sung wu,

This evening I spoke to my cousin who is a police trainer.

He related an incident where he had a group of SO outside a cell ready to deal with an uncooperative top-level prisoner. He managed to talk the crim into being cuffed without needing force but said if it had come to the group entering the cell then the CTV footage would have been confronting to the general public.

However his take on the behaviour of the staff involved in the NT was very negative. He could easily understand how things can get to that point where those involved thought what they did was reasonable but in modern professional policing they would not have passed the muster by any measure.

He acknowledged that quite often detention staff are just that, concerned with managing detention. He felt that in most cases police are possibly better equipped and more prepared to attempt to de-escalate situations than said staff.

He said in Victoria there is a real emphasis on using minimal force. It produces better outcomes for both police members and those they interact with. Spitting hoods are not used instead face protection in the form of glasses is employed by officers. There is very little tolerance for those who do spit.

He commented there needs to be recognition that actions like throwing a 10 year old around by the neck just sows the seeds for more intransigence and violence to be directed at those who interact with lad in the future when he is physically stronger.

One of hardest parts of the job he said is seeing his and others efforts to help people especially juveniles onto a different path having only temporary impacts because of the limited time and resources available.

My conversation with him strengthened my conviction that better training and equipment would have made a huge difference with what occurred in the NT and that toxic cultures can develop within any organisation or institution which often takes radical action to correct.

My hope is that the Royal commission fills that role.

Hi there BENK...

Thank you for your comments and for adducing AIDEN'S thoughts, where he wondered whether the NT government had in fact 'employed the wrong people' to properly control these unruly youths in custody. Interestingly, the same question is often raised about the quality of our police ?

Look BENK, I honestly don't know what qualities, qualifications and special skills, are needed to successfully accommodate these difficult and often violent youths. Obviously 'buckets' of patience, maturity, and perhaps a massive amount of good humour would make the job a little easier to tolerate ?

Personally, I rather rely on a chemical agent (CN or CS) to quell disturbances with these youths, rather than seeking another force option or 'box on' with one of the self-proclaimed 'heavies' among the group. But the problem being BENK, Chemical Agents strike a sense of fear and loathing into the general population mainly out of ignorance, especially when deployed upon youths in detention.

I must confess to you, I really don't know what the best method is in handling these little 'toughs', without turning them into a contemporary version of 'Attila the Hun' ?

' Even if there are some people beyond redemption, it's certain that not everyone who you expect to be beyond redemption really is.'

I don't think anyone is beyond redemption Aiden but the likelihood of it happening is severely diminished by pandering to the socialist ideology where no one is held to account except guards doing a job no one else would be prepared to do.

The behaviour of leftist protestors where they justify their thuggish behaviour while spitting on and assaulting police says it all. They are then the first to scream when force is used to stop people hurting others and themselves.

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

Your cousin had the need, in company with others, to confront an uncooperative 'top level' prisoner, and managed to calm him sufficiently and handcuff him without further incident. Often it's the case. Many a hard head will not make a stink, when confronted with overwhelming force of numbers. They're too 'boob' wise, to waste their energy in a lost cause.

However, many of these young blokes, keen to develop their reputations, will bung on a decent stink purely to show his peer group how tough they are, by assaulting a couple of screws or filthy jacks.

Unfortunately, they don't understand, when ultimately they hit the adult 'go slow', they soon become fresh white arse for the 'real' (adult) gaol heavies, in which to pleasure themselves !

In the juvenile detention centres, the 'tough guys' do everything possible to enhance their reputation(s). Brawling with screws, knowing the Officers are so heavily restricted in their response, as well as government; medical and media scrutiny. Spiting, threatening staff and their families, and abusing Officers. They know, they can get away with such a lot, when classed as young offenders, within the system.

Ultimately, when they progress to an adult gaol, their reputations simply disappear. The only thing that may help them, is to enrol in a full time educational programme for young offenders, by which they're accommodated in a more progressive ('boys wing') within the gaol. There's a greater degree of safety, due to the more stringent supervision of inmates.

Otherwise these juvenile offenders are taken under the wing of a gaol heavy. In return, the 'heavy' offers protection. But the quid pro quo, the 'heavy' can avail himself of a bit of clean white (virgin) arse, with which to amuse himself with.

After which this shamefully abused young person, (former juvenile tough guy), becomes a much harder, more vicious criminal. Any chance he may've had, at rehabilitating himself and achieving some degree of social redemption, becomes even more improbable, in fact pretty well inconceivable. Yet another utterly damaged young man, is consigned to a lifetime of violent crime.

I'm sorry STEELEREDUX...

You mentioned with better 'training and equipment' the events we've seen in the NT might not be repeated again hopefully ?

What sort of training would be envisaged ? And what further equipment would be appropriate ? Please don't misunderstand me STEELEREDUX, handling violent young offenders; safely, effectively, legally, and socially acceptably, is the $64,000 question. And without doubt, probably the bane of most Prison Officials and Police, charged with dealing with these vulnerable but (some) very violent and extremely difficult young people.

The Four Corners episode featured edited footage and the episode did not discuss the teenagers' behaviour leading up to the incidents. People used their prejudices to fill in the gaps. People have widely varying views of authority figures like prison guards.

I suggest that the NT government should release more cctv footage to other media to allow for a more informed debate. I can't understand why they are content to have teenagers gassed of violently stripped naked, but see releasing video footage as an unacceptable breach of their privacy. They have an odd sense of perspective. Governments should not allow others to take so many free kicks at them.

I have personal aquaintence with quite a few boys who have been through this system in the NT and please believe they have been totally destroyed by their upbringing long before they are ever put in detention. And how people can ever expect guards to be able to get them to behave in a decent manner when the kids have no compunction about assaulting and stealing from their own families is beyond me.
Like all these kids in detention there, Dylan Voller had received multiple warnings, suspended sentences and good behaviour bonds before he was ever incarcerated. His eventual first time inside was for aggravated assault and assault at age 11.
Unknown by most of the community is that this boy had been receiving help from the government since age 8. After a traumatic violent early childhood he was put into weekend respite care in hotels, taken on outings, bought toys, given access to counselling etc. His sister now states that his problem is he was never made to accept consequences of his actions!
Equipment like restraint chairs and spit hoods are consequences!
Perhaps he would have turned out better if he been removed from his totally dysfunctional family at an early age and given to long term, decent foster parents.

thankyou Big Nana you are spot on. The Royal Commission will do absolutely nothing as it won't address the issues you bring up. It is a terrible system but no one can suggest what else can be done to these very violent albeit damaged individuals.

Hi there RUNNER & BIG NANA...

Both of you are quite correct when you say, many of these highly troubled youths come from totally dysfunctional families, the parents of which, really shouldn't be permitted to procreate at all ? They bring young innocent children into the world, and spend all their time ensuring they're turned into criminals. There should be significant punitive measures and consequences, for any and all parents who continually fail to provide their progeny with the very best standards of parenting available to them ! To do otherwise, is a crime in my view.

The number of kids I've witnessed sitting alone, in cold dark motor vehicles, while mum and dad are inside a club or pub getting pissed, is an absolute disgrace. Some parents leave five and six years old children alone at home, without leaving them any food or sustenance, or any form of responsible supervision, while they're out carousing 'til 0500-0700 next morning! And The authorities wonder why many of these damaged children, grow up to be thugs ?

One M/V we wheeled, early one morning c.0000h - 0200h , containing two adults and a couple of young children aged in single figures, the girl (who appeared the eldest) was happily drinking from Dad's can of beer, while he drove home ! A young female child sitting in the back, sucking on a tube of full strength beer, was quite immune to the reality, her Dad was stopped by police. It was well my temper was in check ! This was over twenty five years ago, when I was still wearing blue. What a way to raise a young child ?

In my experience, dealing with those children assigned as being 'delinquent' - First; nail-down the parents, in order to determine whether there's any culpability on their part. Secondly; then carefully scrutinize and investigate the children's situation. And I'd bet my fortnightly salary, there's a serious deficiency 'somewhere', with bad parenting ?

O sung wu

a couple of years ago I spoke to one young Indigenous bloke who has been in and out of juvie detention and then gaol. He was pleasant enough to talk to and still only in his early twenties. I asked him what he wanted to do in life. He told me to have 10 kids from 10 different women (I am not joking). And activist are dumb enough to ask why the rate of incarceration for the Indigeneous is rising. Nothing at all to do with racism but everything to do with internal Indigeneous ideology largely created by the secular/welfare state. Another very costly and tragic failed socialist policy.

For those who are interested, the incident where a guard stripped young Dylan was the subject of a court case and appeal. The first judgement is linked from the Crikey website. The judgement in the appeal is available on the NT Attorney General's website, in Supreme Court decisions from 2014, with the title Edwards V Tasker.

Poor record keeping was identified and cctv footage disappeared and reappeared. However, I believe that natural justice was served.

Me and everybody else who gets onto OLO have, very likely, never experienced the neglect, abuse and indifference of useless parents.

Indifference may turn out, on the long run, to be the most damaging cause of later delinquency: imagine if your mother didn't even react if you were hurt, or hungry, but simply looked somewhere else. If your parent couldn't care less if you were home or not, were hurt or not, were crying or not, had been abused or not, piss off, she's off to the pokies. Imagine if you were nothing but a meal-ticket - even if you died, the only sadness would be that your mum's fortnightly family benefits may be reduced.

I remember watching a young kid crying in his front yard, while his (presumably) parents sat on the front verandah and stared out into the distance. Maybe he was putting on a turn, but maybe not. After a while, the parents got up and strolled inside.

Another time, late one winter afternoon, a three-year-old was walking about aimlessly crying, dirty. A bloke strolled past, made some half-hearted comment and walked on. It was his sister's boy.

Indifference. Self-absorption. Self-centredness. Obliviousness to others. Whatever you call it, it breaches the obligations that a parent has to take proper care of their children.

In my limited research, I have not found any evidence of improper removal of children - except for that one case: Bruce Trevorrow in 1958. Otherwise, as far as I can tell, there was no such thing as a stolen generation. Neglected children, yes. Even abandoned children, yes. Skinny, starving children and fat adults, yes. [There's a research topic: measure how long, say, twenty parents spend eating, and how long their children spend eating. What would you expect to find ?]

Parents don't own children, they only borrow them until they are on their feet. They absolutely do NOT have the right to chronically mistreat them, and destroy their one and only lives.

Joe

Many learned persons and commentators (including articulate Indigenous persons) stress the vital importance of "culture" in the Indigenous world.

As a non-Indigenous person, I can never hope to fully understand this concept.

What puzzles me however is from what culture these young thugs emerge? It appears not to be from the "culture" mentioned above.

Would that not be a good place for the Royal Commission to start?

Joe, many nurses who came up to Darwin Paediatric ward from the eastern states were appalled to witness what to us locals was a normal scene. Skinny starving toddlers sitting crying in their cots, with their arms stretched through the bars towards a mother who was sitting on a chair next to them, stuffing their face with food.
Or also by the mothers from remote areas who would happily go shopping all day knowing their fully breast fed baby would be screaming in hunger all day because they wouldn't take a bottle from the nurse.
I don't know if it's a cultural hangover from the days when few children survived infancy, either by deliberate killing or illness and women learned to detach from their babies, and I certainly don't think these mothers didn't love their babies, but I do know that their bonding process was totally different to what we are used to.
Mind you, they have a totally different response to pain and violence as well, far more accepting so I get the feeling it's a cultural thing.

This less nurturing style of bonding is then compounded by the fact that in traditional life, and so on to today, children are never disciplined. They were allowed to do whatever they liked, including dangerous acts, without any repercussions apart from natural consequences like injury.
Before settlement, this didn't matter. Children were only children for a few years and at about age 9 or 10 were pushed into adult life and responsibility.
Boys went through initiation and suddenly became bound by an intricate and vast set of rules and obligations, the breaking of which would result in either severe injury or death.
Girls were given into the household of their promised husband and put under the control of the senior wife. Failure to obey any orders resulted in severe physical punishment, including a spear through the ankle to cripple the girl if she tried to run away.
I feel it is the combination of these two cultural hangovers that has contributed to the situation we now have in many areas, compounded of course by poverty, generational welfare and drugs and alcohol.
Addressing both problems would be a start.,

This another symptom of the ABC illness, presenting selected facts rather than accurate details.

Suggest read: http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2016/07/30/actions-of-guard-found-to-ensure-safety-of-dylan-voller/

The challenge remains to find a better way of dealing with these delinquents as youths, then later as adults.

Perhaps Australian needs consider the Norwegian corrective system.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12

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What is the whole truth behind what happened to Dylan? Is this poor youth being subjected to undue force & why?

I just received a report on what was not reported by the ABC.

Here are some of the things which this poor mistreated child has been up to in the past few years.

In 2012 he blinded his mentor Andrew McAlly with a Fire Extinguisher because he didn't bring a Chocolate Bar for him. Dylan had to be secured so they could remove McAlly for emergency Treatment.

A troubled boy with behavioral problems, Dylan Voller has been in and out of juvenile detention since he was 11 years old for car theft, robberies and, more recently, assault. He’s one of the Northern Territory’s most notorious young offenders. Dylan has been convicted of more than 50 offences most of them violent.

He’d spat at detention centre staff hundreds of times and before he was strapped into that chair, footage not aired by the ABC shows the guards telling Voller he’d been chewing on his mattress and had “unfortunately ... put yourself in here by going at risk”. Voller replies: “I’m going to break my hand anyway ... I’ll snap my bone through my skin.” The guard then says Voller must then be strapped to a restraint chair to help him “keep chilling out”.

Voller’s record , showing a pattern of violence from the start
and for at least seven years now. Moreover, many of his attacks were on police and public servants trying to deal with him.

G'day there JAYB...

Despite what it is you now claim, by drawing attention to this young fellow's criminal antecedents, mostly involving violence. There are many of those who are infinitely more academically qualified than us, who claim intensive counselling, behaviour modification, adjustment and later refinement, are essentially all this young lad really needs. For him to awaken from his ruinous reverie and become conscious of how destructive his behaviour has been in the last six or seven years.

JAYB it's all pretty simple now it's been explained ? So all the occurrences I've witnessed in the past 32 years as a copper, concerning this type of highly resistive violence coming from youths from this precise demographic. Fundamentally pretty well went unresolved, purely because we didn't follow that sage advice given us from the noisy academic cadre !

Will our political elite ever come to realise some kids are simply born bad, if not bad at birth, become so as a result of atrocious parenting. I've not seen the video in question, but it's my understanding he's an aboriginal, that in some cases, puts the poor bugger behind the eight ball. Mate I dunno, I really don't.

OSW: become so as a result of atrocious parenting.

Of that I have no doubt. The following may explain that;

Dylan, bashed Mc Ally with a fire extinguisher causing blindness in one eye and requiring an airlift to Darwin for emergency surgery.

Gerald Tasker from O'Brien's security was the one who secured him in that chair after that incident as the ambulance officers needed the area secure to remove Andrew.

Dylan's mum saw $$$ and sued with no success. She is an expert at working the system. In the lead up to the story being aired, she applied for restraining orders on all the people who know her kid personally.

After she lost, a human rights organisation from Melbourne offered to take on the case after promising her a big cash payout when they win.
Anticipating a big pay day she has bought a new car ($60k) not bad for a dole bludger who hasn't ever worked.

They lost the case last month so the previously restricted footage has been released.

The ABC omitted the context that explains why he was restrained. Voller has been in and out of detention centre's since he was 11. A court was told he’d attacked his mother and had committed more than 50 offences so far, many violent.

Voller’s record , showing a pattern of violence from the start
and for at least seven years now. Moreover, many of his attacks were on police and public servants trying to deal with him:

Again, why did the ABC misrepresent the truth and omit important context?

From the Australian today.

Thank you jayb for the information. People who want to talk about this issue need to understand exactly what the prison was dealing with, before commenting about their policies.

I would also recommend the Vita report. It did identify problems, including poor record keeping and training and the lack of an evidence based intervention to manage traumatised kids. I would rather they spend the budget of the royal commission on implementing their recommendations before having another inquiry.

It might not eliminate the need for solitary confinement and the chair and it might not be enough to help Dylan Voller, given the depth of his issues. However it might help less damaged kids.

Hi (again) JAYB...

I forgot to mention when young Dylan VOLLER hit's real boob, his irascible and cantankerous behaviour will not be tolerated for a second. He'll either come asunder from one of the Officers, or worse annoy another crim, who will not be nearly as charitable as those in the Youth Detention Centre. The boy has much to learn ?

Q: "Again, why did the ABC misrepresent the truth and omit important context?"

A: Because of its privileged position and because it could.

Next,

Q: Why did the ABC's own Media Watch not only not see any problems in the ABC's report, but shamelessly buffed the ABC up for what was a shabby report?

A: Because it was the ABC reviewing the ABC, why expect anything different?