Renewables have a role to play in the correct geographical location where applicable, however, the only real future for a viable energy future globally is the Liquid Floride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) is a completely safe and scalable nuclear energy generation system.

A LFTR not only provides electrical generation highly efficiently but it also provides the capacity to produce liquid fuels which would replace diesel fuels, the primary future transport energy problem which renewables can't replicate.

For a 5 minute brief on LFTR technology can I suggest you all watch this:

https://youtu.be/uK367T7h6ZY

Cheers
Geoff

zealots who overstate the need for renewables show how dumbed down the education system has made people. The benefits of electricity have far outweighed any negative effects. The amount of coal powered electricity needed to run wind farms should be a clue but no longer are people taught to think. Dumb enough to think we can influence the climate while real problems are scoffed at.

es Geoff; and it seems the indians are striving to have a 300 MW prototype operating this year? Others are focusing on miniaturization, the potential being completely automated 10 MW systems powering single streets of around ten households, as owner operator cooperatives, with maintenance limited to around a cursory routine inspection once every four months or so?

And given a total projected operating cost of around a thousand dollars P.A, the cost per household down to around a $100.00 a year?

And their power usages would include (overnight) hot water, air conditioning/central heating and pumps for water usage, some of which could be collected directly from the atmosphere via dehumidifiers?

Even then there would be serious surplus energy to power various cottage industries some of which could be high tech?

And given the low cost per participating household opens up a planet of possibilities for the impoverished poor the world over!

And therefore automatically rejected by diabolically disingenuous greens? Who want anyting else?
Alan B.

Alan B,
What evidence do you have establishing batteries can last 25 years?
And what type of batteries are you referring to?

I have long term hands on experience with 110 volt DC lighting plant operation in outback Australia and it is known life of a battery cell depends on the workload and how many times they are recharged.

Where do you get the idea they last 25 years?

JF: I'm simply amazed that a man of your alleged experience, would need to ask someone, with my limited experience to help them learn stuff already out there as vertible libraries of relevant information, in the public domain!

Plenty of links and evidence for any fool able to operate a computer JF!
Moreover I'm not your unpaid secretary.

Go have a look instead of automatically (and how dare you) impugning the integrity of those who just might have forgotten more science than you've ever learned?

Sure doing something over and over teaches something? In your case a level of self confessed expertise? You need to read up on tesla's battery wall and even more recent developments to stay abreast of this centuries batteries!?

I do have an ability to read and retain relevant information and sometimes for decades. Not something that folks learning to be absolutely dependant on a computer and links for their information or memory are equipped to accomplish?

I suspect, given your deliberately derogatory inquisition, you may have a vested interest in folks having to change their batteries often?
Alan B.

Alan B,

If needed for verification I can forward evidence of my 'alleged' experience to the owner of this site.

I asked you the questions because it was you who challenged my comment about short battery life, with you claiming batteries last 25 years.
I asked genuine questions that you have still not answered.

I understand Lithium Ion batteries used daily under reasonable load can last 10 years but they are unaffordable to the absolute majority of people.
Yes the telco's use Nickel or Lithium batteries but they have huge budgets after selling costly communication.
Satellites and space probes also use expensive batteries that are also unaffordable to the general public.
And some of those batteries can explode as you may have heard.

Do you have a problem with my expertise, as you repeatedly indicate?

It appears to me you have been reading information from decades ago and are mixing it with pieces of modern technology. For example older lead acid batteries are affordable but new technology batteries are absolutely not generally affordable.

I have no vested interest as you suggest.
However the BS linked to renewable energy long-life battery spin annoys me because even at this moment I have about 20 worn out solar batteries I must try to safely dispose of.

I live 6 months a year in a remote Pacific Islands village and people there are always asking me to fix their solar systems, which I do. The fundamental cause damaging components in those systems is low voltage in a cell, or a completely dead cell. A worn out battery in other words, usually in under 5 years.

The island people involved have no cash whatsoever, or available cash to buy new replacement batteries that cost about AUD$90 to $100 each. That is a lot of money for an unemployed poverty stricken person in a developing country where petrol and kerosene costs about double what it does in Australia. Reverting to kerosene lighting is not really affordable either.

So, what batteries are you saying last 25 years, and are they generally affordable?

Leave the insults eh.