Hey Yuyutsu,
I watched a couple of videos on the Armenian Holocaust as well as the earlier video by Prof. Leibowitz.

http://youtu.be/cXHea26RDAY

I'm not sure if the above video is unbiased or slightly slanted towards a Turkish point of view.
It seemed reasonable what was put forward, but what I found out is that there's more than one side to this story too, and the argument isn't exactly cut and dry.

I learned that Armenian Hnchak and Dashnak parties were deliberately carrying out a campaign of terror against the Turkish and Kurdish people of Eastern Anatolia.
They apparently did so for the specific purpose of causing reprisal attacks which they hoped would result in major powers (Russia, France, Britain) coming to their defense.

What I got from the Prof. Leibowitz video was that he opposed the occupation, and also said that a lot of IDF personnel were concerned about serving in the occupied territories.

You spoke about Israels morality.
I kind of believe that if Israel tries to take that land from the Palestinians by means of oppression and military conquest, then you don't morally deserve one square inch of it.

As a side note, or a kind of observation:
It seems to me that in Israel everything is defined in and around an underlying ideology or doctrine that revolves around 'Hate'.
Anyone that criticises Israel is involved in 'Hate Speech'.
Even a Jew that criticises Israel is a 'Self-Hater'.
I've got to honestly say it really seems like such a messed up way to view the world, and I wonder why it's that way, though I have my theories.
It's as though Jews define the world through 'hate-coloured' glasses.
Whats with that?

Haven't forgotten about you Toni,
I'll try to check out your links and respond tomorrow.

Dear Critic,

Thank you for the information about the Armenians, I will study it.

Were you aware that there is an Armenian quarter in Jerusalem's old city? The Armenians there dread the day Israel withdraws, knowing that their Muslim neighbours wouldn't allow them to see the next.
(but I don't advocate that Israel should stay there to save the Armenians, rather it should absorb them as refugees).

If you are looking for hate, go no further: you can find plenty in Australia and even on OLO, even more among Russian and British football fans.

As you said, "It's AS THOUGH Jews define the world through 'hate-coloured' glasses."
Yes, there are SOME Jews who define the world through hate-coloured glasses.
It's the media that accentuates this phenomena.
There are also many Jews and Israelis who live their own lives peacefully and do not hate anyone.
But the media is not interested in those - there's no sensation there, no fame, no profits.

Ask someone overseas, say in Israel, what's the first thing that comes to mind when they think of 'Australia'.

- for many, it would be "bushfires".

You know very well that bushfires do not define life in Australia: they exist, but are far from what Australians have for breakfast.

You can tell this because you experience the Australian life first-hand, yet regarding life in Israel, your only experience comes through the media. Having first-hand experience of life in Israel, I can tell you that while hatred and terrorism and wars all exist, life in Israel is far from being about those.

<<I kind of believe that if Israel tries to take that land from the Palestinians by means of oppression and military conquest, then you don't morally deserve one square inch of it.>>

Hopefully by "you" you mean Israel, not myself... Having even one square inch of that cursed place is indeed a great punishment. What have Israel done to deserve that terrible predicament of occupying it? I don't think that taking the land from Palestinians is a sufficient explanation for their wretched state.