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From victims to suspects: Muslim women since 9/11 : Comments
By Alice Aslan, published 19/5/2016The First Lady's speech helped recreate 'an imaginative geography of West versus East, us versus Muslims-cultures in which first ladies give speeches versus others in which women shuffle around silently in burqas'.
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Hi Ms Aslan. Have you stopped beating the Kurds and Armenians today?
Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 23 May 2016 11:13:18 AM
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Ah yes Joe and commendable action as I myself would take if I witnessed any sort of ethnic based religious vilification. However I wonder if your gallantry would extend to stand up for a Nun having the crucifix yanked from her neck in downtown Cairo by a knife wielding Muslim screaming Allahu akbar?
And how do you feel about that symbol being banned as dress code in some of our Muslim schools or moves to ban Christmas as a holiday, or remove it from the calendar; or even ban department stores from the depiction of the nativity scene as window dressing. Or how do you feel about Imams who claim Christian women are just meat to be used, or justifiably gang raped? Or is that just more confected outrage a you see it? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Monday, 23 May 2016 11:15:12 AM
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Hi Alan,
Of course, I like to think that I would defend a nun in Cairo from having her crucifix torn off, although I'm not likely to go to Cairo any time soon. Why is it that it's women who are the piss-easy targets ? Of course Christians in Muslim schools should be allowed to wear their crucifixes, and Muslim kids in Christian schools should be allowed similarly to wear hijabs - I notice that Muslim kids at the local Greek school, St George's, are free to do so. No biggie. People should be able to celebrate Christmas, Purim, Eid-al-Fitr, Holi, or chant 'Om' to their hearts' content. They have positive social roles, after all. I have no quarrel with shops or churches displaying the fabled nativity, even if they get birth of lambs slightly out of time, nor with shepherds washing their socks wherever they like. As for the fascist utterances of moronic imams, I suggest that if any imam ever makes such outrageous remarks again, they be sued up hill and down dale for using their positions to incite, and/or certified and detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure, prior to deportation. Surely women find such vile remarks offensive, to the point of incitement ? If it is likely that such uncivilized views are common amongst men in the Muslim population, then we really are in troubler. So thanks for re-visiting this topic, Alan. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 23 May 2016 11:38:29 AM
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It is encouraging to see that the overwhelming message in the responses in this thread is:
Islam is bigotry on steroids. Islamophobia is not an irrational reaction but a proper attitude to something vile and dangerous, like a rattlesnake. The official who first launched the term Islamophobia on the world is an Englishman called Mike Dobbins. Read what he wrote when he took the trouble to read in Islamic literature and the responses of Moslems to formal attitude surveys what Islam really is: http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2015/04/mike-dobbins-gives-public-apology-to.htm Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 23 May 2016 7:53:11 PM
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That URL should be
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2015/04/mike-dobbins-gives-public-apology-to.html I'd left off the l at the end. Sorry. Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 23 May 2016 8:24:50 PM
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Emperor Julian
Agreed. Those who accuse others of 'Islamophobia' are either Muslim apologists or arrogant ignoramuses who nothing about Islam and imagine that they're well-informed. There are two main myths- (1) That medieval Islamic societies were'tolerant' and (2) that the conflict started with the Crusades. Posted by mac, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 9:40:34 AM
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