Oh yes indeed Runner and Bazz, we shouldn't be informing our kiddies of the undeniable truth that there are different sexual orientations amongst human beings.

But apparently it is ok to 'teach' them that if they tell a lie they will burn in the fires of hell forever after they die (like I was told as a 6 year old by Nuns). Or that there is an invisible God out there who will 'punish' me for any number of 'sins'.

Now, which of those stories would worry a young child the most?
That is, if primary school age kids are really being told the nitty-gritty of different sexual orientations, or if it is all really in the grubby little minds of the resident homophobes?

'But apparently it is ok to 'teach' them that if they tell a lie they will burn in the fires of hell forever after they die (like I was told as a 6 year old by Nuns). Or that there is an invisible God out there who will 'punish' me for any number of 'sins'.'

hopefully Susie they told you that Someone paid the penalty for your sin so you could avoid hell. I know that modern day mankind hates the thought of any accountability. The zoos the State schools have produced should convince you of the stupidity of the secular faith. Having depraved people brainwash kids about sexual issues leads to suicide, unwanted pregancy, baby killing and disease. No suprise I suppose when people are idiotic enough to beleive we came from slime or by random chance. Such foolish faith

Suseonline,

Your false comparisons always fail to impress.

I very much doubt there are any nuns threatening school children with Old Nick anymore, whereas the are Marxist social engineers trying to get their hands on preschool kids.

Onthebeach, you never fail to prove you continue to live in the communist past by imagining there are any 'Marxists' saying or doing anything at all in our modern day Australia.

Do YOU honestly believe that grade 3 public school teachers are introducing transgender people to their classes and explaining exactly what it means to be transgender?
What rubbish!
I would like to see actual video proof of these classes before I would believe it.

There are lots of complaints about this mythical "rainbow mafia" I think what is occurring (and this is the American Experience) is that both sides of the political divide can no longer excuse cruelty and hate and bullying toward children who happen not to identify as heterosexual. On the ACL's website, Lyle exorts us all to write to the PM to continue an illegal chaplaincy program in our secular state schools that was said to be in breach of the perceived seperation of church and state in our constitution by the high court of Australia. I do not think any reasonable person has a problem with church schools subscribing to the values they uphold just as it would be unreasonable to expect any church to marry gay ppl. if it conflicts with doctrine. However, freedom of worship means that you are free to worship and hold religious values in your tax-exempt , not-for-profit churches. It does NOT mean you may foist your religious doctrinal view on the rest of us in the state school system or in the public secular sphere. As a footnote I smiled when I read that Lyle also believes it would be a disaster if churches were no longer tax exempt. Maybe thats the key, so that churches realise just how priviledged and lucky they are and perhaps that will motivate them to get back to basics instead of wanting ALL of us and our children to swallow Christian doctrine whether we like it or not

Suseonline:

“I totally agree Phanto. It should be the parents who discuss these issues with their kids.
If only there weren't all those judgemental, ignorant homophobe adults out there who were quick to spread their hatred and lies, then that would work well.”

It is irrelevant to my point what parents tell their kids. Using the education system to try and control what children are taught about sexual behaviour and other values is an abuse of the education system. There is no excuse for this abuse. Those who introduce programs which aim to inform children about any kind of sexual behaviour or express opinions about how we should relate to others in regard to their sexual behaviour are abusing that system for their own ends.

If they were confident in the information and opinions they have then they would not have to resort to these tactics. There are more appropriate ways to get their point across. It is up to all of us to make sure the education system is not compromised in this way.