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Castration and hate crime legislation: a model to avoid in Australia : Comments

By Alexandra Tennant, published 15/4/2016

Think twice before 'treating' child sex offenders with chemical castration.

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I think it is high time we stopped worrying about the perceived rights of these inhuman child abusers. I just wouldn't stop at chemical castration but utilise a surgical procedure that makes it a permanent feature. And I'd brand and release these animals as ankle bracelet wearing, bonded servants in outback sheep stations, offshore Islands, what have you, when they'd done their time.

I remember a serial recidivist rapist bar steward called osbourne, as memory serves.

This born again christian discovered Jesus, when doing (butter wouldn't melt in his mouth) time, managed to fool, the usual do-gooders; and when released on parole, went on a raping and vicious knife wielding raping and killing spree that started in Queensland and only ended in W.A. after countless innocent lives had been brutally tortured and taken!

And but for a Towoomba nurse who'd been stabbed over a hundred times, miraculously surviving and living to tell her tale, the monster could have go on and on for who knows how long, before someone stopped him.

I personally wish it could have been with a high velocity projectile right between the peepers, sending the monster on a oneway trip on the highway to hell. A very permanent cure and far better than the animal deserved!

It is high time these exceptionally gifted liars had their stories of redemption and rehabilitation independently verified with covertly deployed space age lie detection technology, that even compulsive liars, tax cheats, drug users/addicts and psychopaths can't beat!

The self confessed experts have released far too many recidivist serial offenders, yet still go on to defend their extraordinary ego driven (I can't be fooled) decisions!

Early release? Yeah sure, if I had my druthers, by firing squad!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 15 April 2016 10:21:17 AM
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I don't see that the subject benefits from an inconclusive ramble by a Bachelor of Business/Arts. I would only comment on what someone who knew what they were talking about said. Unlike the old hoodlum, Rhrosty who, as usual, wants violence wreaked against everyone. I hope the old nutter does not have access to firearms.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 15 April 2016 11:29:40 AM
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Unfortunately the article did not shed any extra light on this issue.
There is some good research on the subject of surgical castration of sex offenders and it does appear to be effective. Medical castration not so good as it relies on the offender taking the medicine.
The issue of what motivates the perpetrator is not in my opinion relevant. They may still be a terrible person, but if they have no libido they will not commit sex offences.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Friday, 15 April 2016 11:43:01 AM
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"The issue of what motivates the perpetrator is not in my opinion relevant. They may still be a terrible person, but if they have no libido they will not commit sex offences."

They will probably still commit other offences so it is just sweeping the problem under the carpet. Sexual assault is never about sex. Rape is never about sex - it is about wanting to hurt or wanting to possess the other in some symbolic way. Of course no one should ever act out these desires but making it just about sexual feelings is too simplistic.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 15 April 2016 1:35:39 PM
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Nope Phanto, Susan Brownmiller was wrong about rape, it's got little to do with "power and control" and everything to do with sex and access to women, the vast majority of rapists are parasitic men from social underclasses who simply steal sexual gratification because they're too lazy or inept to go through the socially accepted process of courtship.
Rape is theft, being robbed of personal dignity, being shamed and treated like dirt is disempowering, traumatic and has lifetime psychological consequences but it has no political connotations, it doesn't reflect on men's general attitudes toward women and the crime confers no "power" or special status upon men.
Sociopaths like Cowan are a different type of creature, evidence shows that in many cases their brains are, if not damaged at least "wired wrong", watch the interviews with his former girlfriends, he came directly from raping the little boy in Darwin and attempted sex with his de- facto partner.
They have no conscience, no shame, no regard for others and their sex drive is usually only a small factor of their anti social personality, the only way to "cure" such people is by a long drop on a short rope or by locking them up forever where their broken brains can plot and fantasise in isolation.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 16 April 2016 8:42:54 AM
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Yes ttbn, I have a gun cabinet and chock full of long and short arms.

I can, even now put ten bottles tied with string on a swinging beam 300 yards out and cut nine out of ten strings from that distance, with the bottles swinging; and with just a single ten round mag.

And a useful skill when used (humanely) against Feral animals, particularly those who are destroying our native forests. It's not/never was pleasure, just a dirty job someone has to do.

Simply put, guns just tools I'm good with even from a mile and a half away. And how dare you misrepresent me the way you have.

My views don't necessarily equate or square away with violence or even any kind of preference or predilection for it.

Just because I'm in favour of capital punishment and protecting innocent women and kids from monsters; who by the way cost us around $70,00.00 a year to keep in relative comfort, while their many victims are made to serve life sentences.

Even as they ponder in terrible trepidation, what their lives or liberty will be worth when these abominable Psychopaths are eventually released.

[Moreover, none of my honestly expressed views necessarily equates to a violent nutter!]

A single bullet to the brain pan is so much cheaper and permanent, and in far too many cases, far more humane than these animals deserve.

And that final solution virtually guarantees their victims will be able to finally rebuild their lives, without having to forever look over the shoulder?

It also guarantees there will be no new victims down to that particular monster! Furthermore, I for one just don't believe that is undeserved or too big an ask?

Given your commentary and your perpetrator defensive, highly offensive and entirely inappropriate labeling, you all too clearly, hold a very different (birds of a feather) view!?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 16 April 2016 9:29:29 AM
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You do all this from your mobility scooter do you? You are a very sick old man.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 16 April 2016 10:38:58 AM
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Nope JOM, you don’t have to rape to achieve sexual satisfaction. You do not even have to have sex in order to achieve it. There must be something else that rapists and child abusers are seeking.

People have sex for all sorts of reasons other than sexual satisfaction. Some are more benign than others but the percentage of sexual couplings that are simply about sexual satisfaction is fairly small in my opinion.
Posted by phanto, Saturday, 16 April 2016 3:56:26 PM
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Someone should've put a bullet into him in 93.
And I mean the government.
Bring back the death penalty.

I'm pretty sure a pattern of behaviour was established after the second offense.
And even though he served his time, I don't think there was any reason to think that innocent kids weren't being put at risk from his release.
I think any reasonable person would have had reason to think he might re-offend.
Should tax payers be forced to waste 1 cent on someone who has a history of being predator to innocent kids and who may never be able to be trusted in society?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 April 2016 9:19:17 AM
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We are soft of paedophiles because there are many of them in the upper echelons of our society including our Judiciary. Jimmy Savile and Rolph Harris had close contacts with the Royals for decades. Rumours must have abounded.

I'm more concerned about our Govts giving our police too many powers. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/14/police-powers-prevention-orders-could-set-up-rival-justice-system-in-nsw?CMP=Share_iOSApp_ Under the ruse of terrorism and paedophila, new laws can be used against innocent people. The laws are adequate but the Judiciary won't implement them.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:39:45 AM
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ttbn: Mobility scooters come in all shapes and sizes some even have tracks and can cope with some very difficult terrain. And then act as a blind when it comes to vermin eradication.

You lose any ability to engage in conclusive moral argument, when your limit is just to bag folks, in fact I believe you've reached your bag limit sport!

I'm very much against violence and violent people!

Not once have you used persuasive argument to support your assertions, you just start with a utterly feeble attempt at character assassination and exclusively reliant on your misrepresentations of other folk and their motivations.

Go the verbal sport, cause that's all you've got!

You all have a nice day now, y'hear.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:49:59 AM
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Rhrosty,

How about drive-by shootings? Are the geriatric scooters quick enough for a getaway? As for your cutting a string on a bottle at 300 yards, you couldn't see the string. It's the bottle you are supposed to hit. I used to shoot 7.62mm from 300m to 900mm, and know what is possible and what is not. .303 before that, along with .22 pistol rapid fire and 50 metre. Your 'shooting' experience comes from John Wayne movies in whatever care institution you live in.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 17 April 2016 11:41:58 AM
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We are soft of paedophiles because there are many of them in the upper echelons of our society including our Judiciary. Jimmy Savile and Rolph Harris had close contacts with the Royals for decades. Rumours must have abounded.

I'm more concerned about our Govts giving our police too many powers. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/14/police-powers-prevention-orders-could-set-up-rival-justice-system-in-nsw?CMP=Share_iOSApp_ Under the ruse of terrorism and paedophila, new laws can be used against innocent people. The laws are adequate but the Judiciary won't implement them.

Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:39:45 AM
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 17 April 2016 7:59:17 PM
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No need to castrate child molesters. Simply imprison them and they will receive sensitivity training from the other inmates.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 18 April 2016 3:28:14 PM
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“Research on child sex offenders found that recidivism rates are low (less than one-quarter had previous convictions for sexual offences)”
Gee, that means that for every 17 child sex convictions, only three children in the future, plus those we never find out about, will have their remaining lives ruined by recidivists after their five-year incarceration break.

“a focus on the medication of child sex offenders could detract from more effective modes of management for the majority of offenders” Like what?
Posted by Edward Carson, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 9:59:33 AM
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