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The far-right may rise but will never arrive : Comments

By William Hill, published 5/4/2016

French voters, when faced with the choice between the Front National and a Republican or Socialist have invariably opted for the latter two.

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The only folk with crystal balls are Gypsies? And bare back horse riding for them, just has to be a completely shattering (ouch, ouch, oh bugger) experience.

Levity aside, who can know the mind of the people, particularly after recent hugely disturbing events in Cologne, france and Belgium, which clearly give oxygen to the calloused and indifferent anti migrant far right?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 10:05:10 AM
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the far right can and will rise,
just look at the support for Trump and in Europe for right wing leaders.

People are scared and sick of immigrants (legal or other)taking their share of land, pensions, hospitals etc.

The far right offer them hope in segregation, the left want to invite everyone in.

You can't mix 21 century citizens with 14th century barbarians who hate democracy. Its sharhir law or beheading.

Even moderate citizens have sympathy for the far right as at least they have a solution (right or wrong)
Posted by kirby483, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 11:13:46 AM
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The far-right may rise but MAY never arrive.
The cards are stacked, we're all being managed.
They don't plan to let the people decide.

And its not just 'the migrant crisis'.
It is influx of refugees caused by the Western powers and European countries support of removing Bashar al-Assad and their interference in other countries, and made worse by George Soros and his Open Borders policy.
Say it like it is. 'They brought this problem on themselves'.
Scary part is, they did it on purpose - but to what end?

I know they are using the refugee crisis as a push for biomectrics and a cashless society, and destroying nations sovereignty in a push for global government.

Are all you people going to stay in hibernation forever?
Wake Up!
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 11:29:55 AM
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Our concept of the far right is a fallacy : I'd call ISIS far right. It has arrived, sorry!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 11:36:40 AM
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It looks like your socialist professors at ANU really managed to house train you, William Hill.

To start with, the "far right" does not need to "take advantage of the turmoil" in Europe. All it has to say is, "we told you so". Your socialist peers have done a real good job of destroying their own civilisations identity, prosperity, and safety, and all the so called "far right" have to do is wait until things get worse, the socialists become completely discredited, the Euros come to their senses, and they all start supporting the people who have opposed Islam, multiculturalism, and socialism all along. Even that doyen of the socialist Left, Sweden, is drowning in illegal immigrants who are trashing Sweden, and destroying the welfare system which all socialists support.

The only reason why the National Front in France has not become the government of France, is because it is against the same sort of gerrymander which Pauline Hanson suffered from, where in one election she got 13% of the primary vote in Australia and got no seats in parliament, while the Greens got 8% of the vote and got six seats.

The times, they are, a changin', William.

Europeans are turning to the right, because they are finally waking up that if they don't, they had all better buy prayer mats and start facing Mecca when they pray. The present crop of socialist politicians are more concerned with the rights of every third worlder to barge into Europe with their hands out, than they are with looking after the interests of their own people. You can get away with that for a while, but sooner or later the people get angry with their own politicians who are selling them out to the UN.

If you are stupid enough to give the "far right" credit for sticking up for their own people, then you sure are giving the "far right" (actually sensible Europeans who are sick of their countries being invaded) some positive publicity.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 6:57:09 PM
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"Despite the reasonable distress at such results from decent and ordinary Britons and Frenchmen" says this young bloke.

The arrogance of these just graduated kids is breathtaking. Apparently you can only be a decent person if you agree with the latest dictates of our academic betters from the far out ANU.

Willy we are no longer interested in academic opinion, it has been through listening to it that we are in such a mess now. Academics, who are more interested in what some middle eastern academic thinks of them, than what is good for the majority of Australians are no longer of any interest to most of us.

Whether it is left or right does not matter a damn, provided it is right. At the present the academic section of left is very wrong.

The elites have been stuffing up mightily for a number of decades, I doubt they will have much influence on the future for very much longer.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 7:12:55 PM
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Gee the author has actually had an education? My old English Teacher in the early 60's would have insisted he made that lot of tripe about a tenth of what Mr Hill made it.
Bill, no one, except some other wearisome left wing student, could bear listening to all your waffle. Honestly you are still way behind the game mate. The Europeans are being swamped by 7th Century savages with a chip on their shoulders and a very bad racist attitude to Europeans. Eventually the majority will rise up and when one pollie loses one cent watch the massive attitude change.
We should be giving our own pollies a quick lesson in what they have to do to keep their massively unreasonable wages.
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 8:30:29 PM
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Right wing activism always fails.
http://www.socialmatter.net/2016/04/05/right-wing-activism-always-fails/

Ponder this, Victoria Police received credible information that up to 200 youth gang members who were known to be violent intended to disturb festivities at Federation Square on the Moomba weekend, their response was to deploy around ten general duties constables to the precinct.
On November 27 last year I attended a street demonstration with about 30 members of the United Patriots Front who are known to be non violent on Spring St in Melbourne, Victoria Police deployed 200 officers, mounted Police, the riot squad in full riot gear and a helicopter all commanded by an inspector.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 7:48:34 AM
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In today's politics, it's hard to find a right or left, just an up or down, good policy versus bad policy. The so called far right or extreme left are, for the most part, nut jobs.

With broken record, motor mouth, verbal vomit spewing from their hate filled diatribes.

Many of them coming from privileged backgrounds and private schools?

I mean the guys that flew those hijacked planes into the twin towers on 9/11, had uni educations and presented as clean shaven, butter wouldn't melt in the mouth affable and well met, nice young gentlemen! Rather than psychotics of extreme political persuasion.

At the end of the day it's all about perception and manufactured personalities and the presentation of palatable policies, even though there's just no intention that any of the more socially acceptable or palatable ever sees the light of day!?

And canned with the usual tripe, we have to live within our means/there's a big black hole i the budget!?

And many of those who have been kicked out via voter response, will struggle mightily to manage to eke out an existence on a parliamentary pension! Like i'm just a pensioner, Jeff Kennett, who almost single handedly, destroyed equitable education outcomes in Victoria?

And speaking of that type of (callous indifferent) strongman, born to rule personality?

Has Trump run his race, given he has like most extremists, fallen into the, give him enough rope, outcome?

To be sure he'll backtrack, claim he didn't say that or has been taken out of context; you know how these folk wriggle around and erupt like veritable vacuous verbal volcanoes, threatening libel/the end of the world as you know it, when caught out in being truthful about how they really feel or believe, or just open the mouth to change socks?

Or in fatal fatuous fortitude, hang on to fundamentally flawed folks or fulsome fatheads, who should have been let go ages ago!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 8:20:15 AM
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Rhrosty I've either met personally or corresponded with all the "Far Right" figures in this country and none of them are mentally ill, some of their followers are dumb to be sure but no dumber than your average Leftist and all groups attract their share of weirdos who never seem to stick around but there are no "nutjobs.
The media lie about everything and everyone all of the time, they lie about Muslims, they lie about environmentalists, Christians, young people etc etc.
If you haven't experience something personally then you don't know what you're talking about and for the record "Far Right" is not a term used by anyone who holds views contrary to the mainstream, it's a slur only.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 8:48:47 AM
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Jay of Melbourne mentioned the United Patriots Front group.
I always thought that name came from the movie "The Life of Brian", so I looked it up.

Actually Jay, it does say this is a far-right group who hates multiculturalism, Islam and Muslims, so I don't think this term is a slur anymore.

I may never have really bothered much about these sort of groups before, but since this group brought their hate slogan to show all on a banner at the football match last weekend, I felt annoyed that such obvious racism could be on display at a national sporting event.

Luckily, that small-minded group of idiots was thrown out of the stadium and vilified by many, many Australians...
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 7 April 2016 1:34:57 AM
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Suse,
Nowadays UPF are a satellite of the Liberal party, they've had to abandon their White Nationalism because their main financier wanted to include his Christian Zionist message and draw closer to groups like Rise UP! and Australian Liberty Alliance.
What they don't show you on TV are the ubiquitous Israeli flags being waved at the rallies, yes MCG the banner stunt was the work of the two youngest members,Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell but they answer to Chris Shortis and Danny Nalliah and beyond them the conservative faction in the Liberal party.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 7 April 2016 8:22:03 AM
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Rhosty "Jeff Kennett, who almost single handedly, destroyed equitable education outcomes in Victoria?"
I know just how powerful the teacher lobby is but this is breathtaking nonsense.
The fact is a bloke called Cain sent Victoria into a huge financial hole which was repaired by Kennett. Part of it was to get some sense into education spending. Those solutions are now being unwound and we are back to more and more money being given to teachers. Not education but teachers salaries and conditions.
The irony is the more we pay them the worse educational outcomes become. That is the outcome and apparently the solution is to keep giving more to teachers. This is worthy of a whole forum on it's own.
Is there a prize for someone who says it is all Tony Abbott's fault?
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 7 April 2016 10:18:26 AM
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