Hi Arjay,

You could be right - what's the state of the Chinese economy - the real state of it ? Has the Chinese regime massively over-invested n infrastructure and in bailing out state-owned enterprises, and massively over-stated the growth rates of the economy ? Has it too been printing money to pay for its 'development' ?

Given the additional problems of demography and changing age-structure, how long does the Chinese regime have to advance its military control of the south China Sea ?

The problem with a Mafia-type, patron-client-type, system is that it has to appear brutally strong to maintain control - and if it initiates aggressive ventures such as China is now in the south China Sea, then it has to follow through. Like a Mafia boss, it can't afford to ever back down, or show any weakness. So it has to stand over, and if necessary (we'll see)invade and try to crush, any opposition to its advances.

And clearly, its advances will be into Vietnam, its nearest 'neighbour', militarily weak in comparison with China. So let's anticipate some blustering from China about Vietnam in the near future, perhaps even some put-up job of Vietnam's 'incursion' into Chinese 'territory', that sort of pretext. It worked for the Nazis in 1939 and for the Japanese in 1937, so it shouldn't be difficult to cook up something.

Joe

Joe, I will answer your four points in the same order that you wrote them.

1. Repeating nonsense does not make it correct. I asked for "evidence" and your posts demonstrably lack anything approaching that.

2. No, it is more subtle and complicated than that, as the recent US State Department Report on the topic noted.

3. I do not know what the Taiwanese people think, but it is a fact that the Taiwanese government repeated their claims recently as January 2016.

4. For goodness sake Joe, get a grip. You will be yelling Reds Under the Bed and Yellow Peril next.

More generally, does the term US imperialism resonate with you at all? Their post WW2 record in this area is unmatched, as is the scale of their killing, the number of deaths caused, the governments overthrown, etc etc. Plenty of references available if I thought you had a serious interest in the truth.

You might have some thoughts on the number of US bases that ring China and Russia; the US militarisation of the South China Sea (dragging Australia along) and the dire prospect of a Clinton victory in November. Hope you have your bomb shelter built and stocked.

Loudmouth "Has the Chinese regime massively over-invested n infrastructure and in bailing out state-owned enterprises, and massively over-stated the growth rates of the economy ? Has it too been printing money to pay for its 'development ?"

Yes China has been in the game money printing and building empty cities but they are still the factory of the planet. They have real productivity to back up their money printing and they don't borrow a lot from OS private central bankers to finance their growth. China and Russia were expected to roll over and let our Central Bankers have total control of their economies. China has won the peace. They do not need war. They are buying assets all over the planet.

We joined their Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank probably a hedge against the collapsing Western system. They also have the BRICS Nations for trading and investment which make up 40% of the World's pop and 25% of its income. This is another reason our oligarchs want war.

Notice how all these new oppressive laws are coming in under the lie of preventing terrorism? When the collapse happens they need to silence dissidents. With now war to blame this on the people could eventually take control and they lose 300 yrs of power and planning to control the planet.

George Carlin sums it very well. "The politicians are put there to give you the illusion of choice. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you ." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbnzhTmiyec

Hi Arjay,

Perhaps China isn't as flash as you think :) And it's got only ten years or so before the demographics crash in on it. So it's got to act pretty soon - of course, as elsewhere, a huge lift in its military budget would also boost the economy. Gosh, I do believe that's happening right now.

Trouble is: how will those millions of little darlings, the one precious child in each family, beavering their way through university, react to the likelihood of compulsory military service ? When their eyes are on migrating to the US, evil incarnate and the heart of darkness, or to Europe ? Or to Australia and NZ ?

So: how to engineer a war in anticipatory retaliation for the coming surprise unprovoked aggression from Vietnam or Malaysia or Indonesia or the Philippines ? Where are the Chinese going to get their hands on WW II Polish Army uniforms ?

Interesting times, Arjay.

Joe

Arjay,

Why do you still keep droning on about private central banks? I know you can find websites making that claim, just as you can find websites claiming the moon's made of cheese. But in reality the US Federal Reserve is the only central bank in the entire world with any private equity in it at all. Even the BIS (which is not a central bank and does not control central banks) is now entirely owned by its members.

The Rothschilds may still be major players in the bond markets, but the days when they controlled the world's financial system are long gone.

Although the amount of gross debt has increased exponentially, the global amount of net debt sums to zero, so the claim that exponentially more money is needed to pay for the debt of yesterday is illogical. More money may well be needed to keep the economy growing, but that's not a problem, because productivity growth and/or inflation and/or cutting interest rates increases our ability to service debt.

Australian law does not permit bank deposits to be converted to shares.

And I think the reason that our media didn't mention Italian depositors losing their money in December 2015 is that it never occurred. Bondholders lost their money but deposits are far more secure.

Fukushima is on the East Coast of Japan and has had no effect on the fishing grounds around China, nor the fishing grounds on the other side of the Pacific Ocean.

Government spending can always counteract an economic downturn, but war is the least efficient way for a government to spend money.

Aidan,The Rothschilds are still the most powerful family on the planet.The Money Masters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wU9ZnAKAw

Last yr the fishing on the West coast USA has been shut down. Japan's PM Abe has passed laws that journos who report unauthorised reports on Fukushima or its affects get 10 yrs jail. Do you think the media in any country will tell the truth? 3 reactors went into melt down and continue to pour radiation into the ocean.

DR Paul Craig Roberts is the ex assistant secretary to the US Treasury.He also warns of a nuke war. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/03/24/the-real-likelihood-of-a-nuclear-war-paul-craig-roberts/

Those involved with the false flag attacks of 911 to bring about the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, and now Syria have a lot to lose if they face trial for their crimes. This is what makes them so dangerous.

General Wesley Clarke ex head of NATO has blown the whistle on their planned invasions of 7 countries in 5 yrs, just 10 days after 911. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw