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If the science is settled, why do we need all these people working at it? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 9/2/2016

Has Climate Science become hopelessly bogged down? Has Climate Science reached a point where misbehaving programs [paradigms] are using 99% of research efforts and thus draining away – frittering away – the field’s resources?

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JBower
They haven't said "This is the hottest year ever" for the past ten years but what they have said is that the ten hottest years, bar one (1997-8), have all been this century. So the trend is clear.

Curmudgeon
Living up to your name as always. At least you're consistent. Sea-level rise? On current rates, yes, 30cm a century (not to be laughed at - the extra 20cm experienced already made Superstorm Sandy a lot more damaging) but with glacier melt speeding up and continued thermal expansion because of rising temperatures, we can anticipate a lot more than 30 cm by 2100. At a Planet Under Pressure conference in London in 2012, they were suggesting 1.2 metres. Others are predicting worse than that though 1.2m will cause enormous damage to food-growing deltas and to major cities like New York and London.
Posted by popnperish, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:44:52 PM
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Hi Don, Barnaby Joyce summed this up perfectly a few years back while appearing on Q&A, he said, "as long as we continue to fund research, researchers will continue researching"

Of cause pollies are reluctant to pull funding for fear of increasing the jobless rate, because that can have an adverse effect on elections and, considering being re-elected is their top priority, they don't want to rock the boat, the GST debate is a prime example.

Pollies know that the longer they serve the higher the 'set for life' pension is, Wyatt Roy knows this all too well. I will bet my bottom dollar he is against the GST rise.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 1:20:57 PM
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Winters in Canberra are cold and those people need to eat!

They are not the type of people who can go out and physically say, plant trees.
They can only sit in an air-conditioned office, write computer simulations and draw charts,
and yes, they can also TALK about planting trees.

Now be honest, all of you: suppose you were paid a hefty salary where your job-description was to prove that monkeys have three legs, wouldn't you do everything you could to prove so? Perhaps you would come out with a theory that their tails are actually another leg, why not?

You really cannot blame them and it would be unfair to sack them, but you can change their job-description to stay home in bed instead.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 1:43:47 PM
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' You really cannot blame them and it would be unfair to sack them, but you can change their job-description to stay home in bed instead.'

now that is funny Yuyutsu. It would stop them driving their evil cars and heating the planet.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 2:18:54 PM
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My apologies popnperish I made an error of ten per cent. Your little CSRIO darlings would dream of errors of that accuracy. The money wasted on this nonsense is a world wide disgrace. Now Australia has fixed ours up and shown the way. All the ten bob shills will be be shown the door, bravo!
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 3:45:19 PM
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"The science is settled", is the dumbest statement that the climate scientists have made. If "the science is settled", who needs government employed climate scientists?

So now we are seeing statements from climate scientists that well, gee, maybe the science isn't quite settled. We just don't know. But we have to find out, because it is rooly, rooly important. You need to keep funding our research so that we can find out for sure. And I want to buy a new car. And my kid's private school fees are expensive. But most of all, capitalism is destroying the planet so, just like the ABC, I want to public to keep paying me so that I can use "science" to find reasons why socialism must triumph.

Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery is right. It is time to call out the troops and put Australia under martial law. Keeping our jobs is that important.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 3:09:41 AM
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